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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13349939

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13145612

(edit) Would someone please ship some counterfeit money through there and get it confiscated, so the police can then be investigated for spending counterfeit money?

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Socialists have their way we're going to Lose ALL OUR COPS because we Won't let them STEAL our Money anymore! Why would anyone become a Cop if they can't STEAL our MONEY?

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To beat and shoot minorities with no repercussions

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago

Don't forget their favorite passtime: blowing a hole through Fido's face as the kids watch their beloved family dog die slowly while howling in pain!

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Hah Timmy, guess your stupid little ass ain’t getting grandmas crisp 20 dollar bill for your birthday this year! Better luck next year you 7 year old sack of shit!” -American cops, probably.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago

Little Timmy would have probably spent it on drugs anyway. That there's drug money!

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

It's a legal cartel

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember friends, use the USPS for all your criminal transport needs.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, there's a reason they do this with PRIVATE shipment hubs and not USPS hubs.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do the dogs do with all that money?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago

Buy Scooby Snacks

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

...when i was growing up waaay back in the depths of the twentieth century, standard protocol was never to send cash: check, money order, or COD only...in my grandparents' generation, stamps were also often accepted as legal tender!..

...does anyone even do cash-on-delivery anymore?..i never used it but i feel like i haven't seen mention in thirty years...

...so anyway, we had an onion on our belt, which was the style at the time, and my point is that not sending cash is nothing new...i guess the idea back then was that sending cash either risked loss/theft or facilitated illicit commerce; i never really figured out which...

...is sending cash any different now?..

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but "sending cash is risky" is different than "if you send cash police will legally steal it."

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 month ago

...that's a fair point and civil forfeiture for carrying cash on your person is a thing now, too...

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://www.dickinson.edu/news/article/3193/dickinson_college_chemistry_class_explores_the_presence_of_drug_residue_on_us_currency

Here's a startling fact: Roughly 90 percent of the dollar bills in circulation in the U.S. have been shown to contain cocaine residue.

So they just steal 90% of the moneys for no reason, cool cool.

edit No wait i was stupid, they just sniff for cash, not drugs, and just keep 100%