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Arab American convention in Dearborn to feature Macklemore, Jill Stein, Cornel West (www.msn.com)

submitted 2 months ago by UniversalMonk@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

when Trump won the presidency, one of his first actions was to block immigration specifically from Muslim countries. He has also stated that Israel needs to “finish the job” in Palestine.

Third parties, with no chance of winning or affecting policy, splitting support for Harris or creating doubt and apathy leading to even 1 percentage point of lower turnout among non-Trump voters would be pushing the US toward a more certain Trump win - an outcome that is surely worse for Palestinians.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I'm still voting third party. I will not vote for the corrupt duopoly. You can, and that is your right. But I won't, as is my right.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You really don’t think it’s your personal vote that is the issue here? If you have decided how you will vote, and it is a personal matter only, why have you posted 75+ articles in 30 days making noise about fringe party candidates’ ballot access?

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If you have decided how you will vote, and it is a personal matter only, why have you posted 75+ articles in 30 days making noise about fringe party candidates’ ballot access?

The same reason I have posted over 300 articles and comments about socialists in the same time frame. My post history: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

Funny how you always leave that out because it destroys your implication that I am a Trump voter. I'm not voting for Trump. As I have said many times. I'm also not voting for Harris. As I have said many times.

I think the articles are interesting. Nothing I am posting breaks the rules of this sub.

Do you think information about third parties should be withheld and censored?

Please block me if you are tired of my posts and/or comments. Thank you!

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have never implied you are a Trump voter, and I am not concerned about your personal voting behavior.

I think non-organic amplification of divisive content is a problem on many forums, and the intent and behavior of the poster does matter, not just whether a particular type of article follows the rules.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This user will never have an honest dialogue with you

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I know. He’s not my audience.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I feel you on that. I am in that position a lot with people like this. I do the same thing you do.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just to save everyone time, OP is here to spread propaganda that benefits the GOP and their electoral chances because they (wrongly and incredibly moronically) feel it will help their own political goals.

Regardless of their supposed political views they claim to have, this has been pointed out ad infinitum and they only respond with bad faith arguments and deflection. Everything they have posted here should be disregarded in its entirety until they want to stop playing games.

Jill Stein is not a serious person.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

hOw DaRe YoU pErSoNaLlY aTtAcK mE!1!11!!!

lEtS tAlK aBoUt ThE PrOpAgAnDa Im PoStInG!1!

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just an FYI. This poster has absolutely no problem with Trump being re-elected.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t care if Trump is elected as I am not afraid of him. I don’t like him, but I am not afraid of him. And I don’t think he has any chance of winning.

And I’m not voting for him.

And for the record, I have said that many times. So your screenshot is no “gotcha” since I have said it in several comments.

And I stand by what I said.

Also, for the record, if I DID want to vote for him, that would be my right. It’s not against the law to vote for Trump. He’s an idiot and I don’t know why people would want to vote for him, but it’s not against the law. So calm down.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, genius, no one ever said it was illegal. Just shows how uninformed and, quite frankly, idiotic your stance is. If you don't see Trump as a threat to democracy, the so-called thing you're supposedly all about, and the one thing that's allowing you to speak your mind about the idiotic things you "believe" then you're just as bad as someone voting for him.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, genius, no one ever said it was illegal. Just shows how uninformed and, quite frankly, idiotic your stance is.

Good. So you can calm down. Almost half of the country is not voting for your candidate. Welcome to democracy.

I’m not scared of Trump. I don’t care how mad that makes you. You can be scared of him. That’s totally your right. I respect your rights, you can respect mine.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So you state an obvious lie to try to make a point. This is what the fuck everyone is pointing out. And I love how you disregard the rest of my comment. And quit saying to respect your rights what you're stating is opinion and people are allowed to disagree with it. Seems this only works one way with you.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"HOW THE FUCK DO WE GET TO 270 WORLD TOUR!"

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -4 points 2 months ago

"It breaks my heart as a Democrat because I thought human rights matter for everyone," said Ahwal, who's of Palestinian descent and on the national board of the Westland-based American Federation of Ramallah Palestine (AFRP), one of the oldest Palestinian American groups.

"She's better than Biden," Ahwal said of Harris. "She's using words like Palestinian dignity, but these are words when we continue to send weapons."

That these people are willing to hear what these voters have to say is a positive, imo.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

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[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

To cut through the nonsense and save everyone time, especially since many in this community have a habit of resorting to personal attacks when responding to my posts recently: I support and respect everyone’s right to vote for who they want to.

I'm just posting this article that’s already available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy—I didn’t write it, just sharing it for discussion.

I’m clarifying all of this due to past posters refusing to refrain from insults, as well as repeated baseless accusations that I’m a Republican, Russian, and/or that I'm not even an American citizen (sorry guys, I'm all American)

So I'd prefer we stick to discussing the article’s politics rather than focusing on me personally, if you'd like to engage with me. Now if you wanna just talk crap about me but not talk to me, then feel free. But I don't really think that fits in with the spirit of this awesome community.

I’m not here to prove anything to you. I’ll keep posting content that fits the community’s guidelines, and if you feel otherwise, the mods are available. Thank you!

[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not here to prove anything to you.

Yet you post essay long comments like this to totally prove you're not weird. Ironic.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t owe you any explanations, and my replies can be as detailed as I choose. Your attitude, and those who think like you, are exactly why I wrote the disclaimer in the first place. You’ve proven my point within seconds of me posting.

Please feel free to block me if my comments annoy you that much. Thank you! :)

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Love how you pretend 99% of the feedback you get isn't negative

[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet you're still explaining yourself to us. Which no one ever asked for.

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet you’re still explaining yourself to us. Which no one ever asked for.

I don't have to ask your permission to explain anything.

[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not here to prove anything to you.

Continues to try to prove that he/she is not weird.

I don’t owe you any explanations

Continues to explain why they are not weird.

I don't have to ask your permission to explain anything

You just contradicted yourself.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

In thirty-two days you're made two thousand five hundred and one submissions to Lemmy.

That's one (on average) every eighteen and a half minutes.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My previous comment asking who OP was was removed. I'll try again without the F word.

Who are you?

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand. I'm a guy posting. So not sure what more you want to know.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re making a very big deal about who you are. Why go out of your way to excuse your actions on top of simply posting an article?

[+] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well refresh the comments in this thread. 28 comments, and the majority are attacking me and telling me I have an agenda. Which is what I get every time I post here.

Which is why I posted the disclaimer.

This isn't my first post and I was hoping by posting a disclaimer people wouldn't jump into attack. Um, that didn't work. lol So go ahead and refresh the thread and read all the comments. :)

I especially like this one, even tho all I've done to make him this mad is posted a news article:

Just to save everyone time, OP is here to spread propaganda that benefits the GOP and their electoral chances because they (wrongly and incredibly moronically) feel it will help their own political goals.

Regardless of their supposed political views they claim to have, this has been pointed out ad infinitum and they only respond with bad faith arguments and deflection. Everything they have posted here should be disregarded in its entirety until they want to stop playing games.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're rightfully attacking you because you started the thread by making yourself the story.

To cut through the nonsense and save everyone time, especially since many in this community have a habit of resorting to personal attacks when responding to my posts recently

I don't know who you are. I clicked on this post to read about the context of the story. Instead, the first thing I read is some annoying cry baby monologue about you, as if you matter.

You are doing exactly the opposite of cutting through nonsense and saving me time.

So what if you have an agenda? Everyone posting something has a perspective or reason why they're posting it. If you continue to get downvoted or your posts are removed, perhaps this isn't the sub for you to post this content. Otherwise, just let people read the story without adding your own commentary about yourself. If you want to add context to the story, do it about the story, not you or your post history.

Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and block you being that you seem more concerned with your own ego than the news you're pretending to care about. It's not beneficial to me.