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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 18 points 2 months ago

and this: However, in an April 2019 tweet, sports columnist Rick Reilly said he once visited Trump Tower and looked through a telescope aimed at Downtown Manhattan. He said Trump told him, “I saw the towers come down thr[ough] that telescope.” AD

“Oh, my God,” Reilly said he responded, to which Trump said, “Solid gold.”

I once looked thru his telescope in his Trump Tower apt. that looked downtown. He said, "I saw the towers come down thru that telescope." I lifted my head up. "Oh my god," I gasped.
"Solid gold," he said.#Narcissist
— Rick Reilly (@ReillyRick) April 12, 2019

There is one thing we do know for certain about Trump’s whereabouts 18 years ago. In the afternoon, producers for WWOR in Secaucus, N.J., were desperate to broadcast something besides a loop of the planes hitting the towers. As The Washington Post’s Timothy Bella reported last year, one of them thought to get a celebrity on the phone for an interview, and soon after, they reached Trump on his private penthouse line.

A few minutes later, he was live on air. “I have a window that looks directly at the World Trade Center, and I saw this huge explosion,” Trump said. “Now, I’m looking at absolutely nothing. It’s just gone. It’s just hard to believe.”

Then, when asked whether his building at 40 Wall Street, several blocks from Ground Zero, had seen any damage, Trump responded: “40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest — and then, when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second tallest. And now it’s the tallest.” AD

Brenda Blackmon, who was co-anchoring, told The Post in 2018: “Any reaction I had, in the midst of everything that was happening, was, wow, that’s insensitive. It just was.”

The photo of the doomed 9/11 ‘Dust Lady’ still haunts us after all these years

So that was the day of the attacks. In the Pentagon speech Wednesday, Trump also said, “Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could.”

This appears to be another version of a claim Trump began making only two days after the attacks and has continued to make, without providing evidence, for years.

As The Fix’s Philip Bump

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this is a fun post and it can stay for now, but it's probably off-topic for sneerclub

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

for now

took a moment to imagine what happens if this breaks containment

might have to blind myself for a few days

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He was celebrating that he had the tallest building.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

And watching the muslins cheer in New Jersey...

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

You mean like this:

What was Trump actually doing on 9/11? An anniversary fact check. By Gillian Brockell September 11, 2019 at 1:03 p.m. MDT

At a 9/11 commemoration at the Pentagon on Wednesday, President Trump expanded on his lengthy history of recollections of Sept. 11, 2001, and its aftermath.

Before digging in, it is worth quoting at length.

I vividly remember when I first heard the news. I was sitting at home watching a major business television show early that morning. Jack Welch, the legendary head of General Electric, was about to be interviewed, when all of a sudden, they cut away.
At first, there were different reports: “It was a boiler fire.” But I knew that boilers aren’t at the top of a building. “It was a kitchen explosion in Windows on the World.” Nobody really knew what happened. There was great confusion.
I was looking out of a window from a building at Midtown Manhattan, directly at the World Trade Center, when I saw a second plane at a tremendous speed go into the second tower. It was then that I realized the world was going to change.
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Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could.

Okay, let’s unpack this.

As the millions of Americans who witnessed the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history on live TV can attest, news shows did cut away from regularly scheduled segments to broadcast a live view of the World Trade Center towers after the first plane hit. Those same millions watched with horror as the second plane struck the second tower a few minutes later.

But Trump’s claim here is a little different. He said he “was looking out of a window from a building at Midtown Manhattan” that he had previously identified as his “home” when he watched the second plane hit with his own eyes, not on TV. AD

Trump’s penthouse at Trump Tower is on the 58th floor — high in the New York skyline — so it is possible that he had an unimpeded view of the World Trade Center all the way down on the southern end of Manhattan.

On 9/11, as the Pentagon burned, the White House couldn't find Donald Rumsfeld

There are reasons to be skeptical, though. While on the campaign trail in 2015, he told rallygoers:

“I have a window in my apartment that specifically was aimed at the World Trade Center because of the beauty of the whole Downtown Manhattan. And I watched as people jumped, and I watched the second plane come in.”

This an odd claim, considering that Trump Tower was four miles from the World Trade Center, and it would have been difficult to see people jumping from that distance. But for those millions who watched on TV, the sight of people jumping can never be forgotten.