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(CW: transphobia, school shootings) Twitter nazis blame trans people for the Georgia school shooting (hexbear.net)
submitted 3 months ago by charmander@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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A news article about the Sep 4 school shooting in Georgia says the shooter was frustrated about the acceptance of trans people. LibsOfTikTok reinterpreted this to mean the exact opposite of what it says, and blamed trans people for the shooting, so all the twitter chuds were baying for blood all day yesterday.

They've done this for every major shooting in the US for the past few years

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[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Chuds do this with every mass shooting/killing. They claim the guy who shot Trump was a Democrat and trans. They were claiming Ashley Babit (sp?) was a crisis actor. The Uvalde shooter was a Latino immigrant.

They say wrong things on purpose because they agree with the shooters. They're just too chickenshit to do anything themselves. They want plausible deniability but will cheer these terrorists on from behind closed doors.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never believe that chuds are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The chuds have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not a fan of this quote really. It seems to be built on the premise that humans are somehow incapable of sincerely believing in nonsense because, I don't know, we're just inherently rational or something?

It does fit obvious grifters like Jacob Wohl (or whatever his name is) and Alex Jones, but it's definitely not universally applicable. Just look at someone like Jordan Peterson, the guy clearly buys all of his own bullshit and so do most of his fans.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not a fan of this quote really. It seems to be built on the premise that humans are somehow incapable of sincerely believing in nonsense because, I don't know, we're just inherently rational or something?

I think it's just observing a sort of nihilistic troll behavior that's probably a thing that some people have always done, where the contents of what's being said doesn't matter so long as they're at once inflammatory and self-serving. It shouldn't be taken to conclude that everyone who is awful is just maliciously pretending, but that there's a certain sort of bombastic troll who just makes up shit on the spot and says it with a shit eating grin and complete conviction, knowing that it's bullshit but enjoying the harm it causes and the way it furthers their own goals.

It's like a less formalized, more intuitive version of neoreactionary meme magic bullshit, just saying things you just made up over and over until people believe them.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree with that, it's just how a lot of people seem to think it applies to literally every single reactionary that I have a problem with.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I've noticed that too

Good to make the distinction

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

It does paint with too broad of a brush - kind of like the essay Masses, Elites, and Rebels - but in the case of Chaya Raichik it's %100 true.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago

Fuck these Nazi fucks, they turn everything into a blame-game against minorities

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh? So the answer to this kid shooting up a school because he's upset that trans people are being accepted is to give in to his grievance? Or does the chud have no reading comprehension and got the opposite message from what was written? I guess Chaya did write it in a deliberately ambiguous way. wall-flipped wall wall sacred duty of journalism etc etc etc

[–] charmander@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

no it isn't even ambiguous, libsoftiktok is just lying lol

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

[Trans people commit .0000000000000001% of violence in the USA]

Chuds: Why is the media not talking about these dAnGeRoUs people?!

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

illegal-to-say

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Won't cry tears if Raichik gets shot in the face for those remarks...

Actually, fed agent, come here and listen to this minecraft

May Eliot Higgins be removed too

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

Chaya Raichik makes me so viscerally angry. I probably shouldnt let her because its what she wants. But I just fucking hate her. Probably more than any other chud who's not in an actual position of political power (I mean its arguable she does have political power since she's influencing policy lol).

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I despise this social media age. All thats needed is some influential idiot to spread a narrative and it catches on like wild fire. Even though a lot of the audience already has that bias its still fucking annoying.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

remember how much fake news about Imane Khelif being AMAB (not that there would be anything wrong if she actually was) there was? Like actual lies and misgendering?

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It was crazy. Had people like logan paul cosign it. Even if she was AMAB the amount of hate she got was ridiculous. They wanted her head

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

reinterpreted this to mean the exact opposite of what it says, and blamed trans people for the shooting

If bourgeoise media does not act as gatekeepers to this behaviour the only recourse is to go after the bourgeoisie responsible until they realise that gatekeeping this behaviour is necessary for their own safety.

Call me an adventurist or whatever but we actually crossed a line where this started to be necessary a while ago and simply haven't caught up yet because the movement is not yet radical enough.

This behaviour caused the UK race riots which while bad did not actually kill anyone. If the same spark is achieved in the US with such lies it will cause mass murder on a huge scale.

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

This is so dejecting

agony-turbo

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So he was an "LGB without the T" terrorist?

[–] charmander@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

no, afaik he isn't gay, he's just a gun weirdo and a fan of the sandy hook mass shooter

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

His dad said he was gay according to the image

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't take freaks like libsoftiktok at their word

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/09/04/four-people-killed-in-georgia-high-school-shooting/

The suspect was allegedly bullied by his peers and frequently called “gay”, his father told investigators in a phone call in 2023.

That was not what the father was saying.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

Teenage boys regularly call people they don't like gay (derogatory). That was the case when I was that age anyway.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

more of a terf island ideology tbh. much more fringe ideology here than incels, much less the broader reactionary shooter base