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The news mod team has asked to no longer be a part of the project until we have a composite tool that polls multiple sources for a more balanced view.

It will take a few hours, but FOR NOW there won't be a bot giving reviews of the source.

The goal was simple: make it easier to show biased sources. This was to give you and the mods a better view of what we were looking at.

The mod team is in agreement: one source of truth isn't enough. We are working on a tool to give a composite score, from multiple sources, all open source.

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[–] Melody@lemmy.one 6 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Honestly; I think the "Negative" reactions to the bot are overblown and only done by a vocal minority who are sockpuppeting followed by a few people who are irrationally angry that the bot can be, GASP! Dare I SAY IT???!!11, Wrong.

Personally I don't find the bot problematic at all; and I think it could easily be blocked or ignored by people who find it too inaccurate. So I find it extremely disappointing that the mods are listening to the vocal minority about this.

That being said; I do understand why Mods want to make the bot more accurate. It's assessments and information can easily make obvious extremists and trolls more obvious to the naked eye; and can help people consume media with some grains of salt. More sources of data are good for accuracy.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

What point does a "bias" bot serve if it can be incorrect? And if it can be incorrect then why should we trust it at all?

You may as well write a bot that posts "remember, don't trust everything you read online and use critical thinking when you're doing your own research" to every post.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, the bias piece was never the important piece for us. It was the credibility piece.

Just trying to give some insight into why we used it in this community.

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[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The news source of this post could not be identified. Please check the source yourself. Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm absolutely for the bot and I know I'm not alone. I like having it and I find it useful. I don't know why other people think it's "a source of truth" like I'm some mindless sheep who can't think on my own. I can and do take its rating with a grain of salt.

I don't like sports but you don't see me asking admins to remove those subs. It's selfish of people to ask for it to take it down for everyone. A good aspect of using Lemmy is being able to customize your experience--so do that. If you don't like bots, hide them all in the settings or block them individually. It's that simple.

Now that I think of it, maybe Lemmy should ask new users how they want to experience the site when creating their accounts.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because a lot of people don't spend effort researching the sources. When the mods present MBFC ratings on each post without any explanation or context, it's an endorsement of MBFC and their opinion, and presents it as a reliable source.

If people want to do the research to evaluate a source, they can do that on their own. Presenting a biased source like MBFC is counterproductive to that goal.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

What I wish we had is a tool for showing which sources tend to be most statistically correlated with each other, without trying to place them on a linear spectrum.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you mods.

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