Remember when all those politicians, actors, and activists went to that global climate change meeting on private planes?
Rich ppl will do nothing if it even inconveniences them a smidgen.
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Most people won’t. But rich people especially won’t.
unlike rich people, most people can be incentivized or compelled to behave
People like to point at rich people on planes but really it's actually the car dependency and carnism that are destroying the planet.
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They don’t care about serving good coffee at affordable prices either. I drink black coffee and their Pike Roast tastes like burnt flavor crystals.
It's an apartheid.
Their wealth can protect them from climate change, so they have no good reason to change their behavior.
Increasingly I think it actually might protect them. Not in a postapocalyptic bunker or a libertarian private island but rather in the upper echelons of a less climate-striken authoritarian country. One where there's still a functioning society, enough labor to sustain an economy and a compliant political and law enforcement classes happy to maintain some form of apartheid. The Arabian peninsula countries could be a model.
Oh, definitely. In most countries the wealthy can simply buy citizenship.
The thing why I am not 100% sure this will work is that the wealthy especially today increasingly hold abstract wealth. It's in the form of money and other financial instruments. All of those are IOUs owed to them in labor. In other words it's only meaningful because someone will accept these IOUs in order to do some work in exchange. This is even true for natural resources and more automated services because all of them require some amount of labor to extract or maintain. With that in mind, say the source countries where these IOUs commanded labor fall apart (mass death, political upheaval, etc) then they go with these IOUs to Qatar to Uncle Putin to purchase a citizenship. Putin could accept those IOUs in exange for a citizenship. However he wouldn't be able to buy anything with them from because they are no longer accepted. So why would he take the wealthy person? Surely he isn't so naive to believe every wealthy person is actually as valuable in their ability as their wealth. So I'm thinking, and I'm not confident in this thought, but I feel like its possible that the first wave might be able to buy its way into Traditional Values Federation, while the global economy isn't dead yet. As things start to crumble, it'll get harder and harder to do so. Perhaps in the later rounds of the lottery, only people who have some other type of capital, not financial, would qualify. E.g. a guy from ASML with all the blueprints to build 1nm lithography machines. In fact, even if financial capital is accepted in exchange for citizenships it will probably not be accepted in the landing country in order to prevent it from being deployed against the existing political class. Adding a lot of billionaires in Russia and letting them spend domestically can dismantle the regime that let them in.
It could be you're right.
I don't think anyone can really say how it will work out in the end, but I am comfortable in saying I'm sure the wealthy will survive it unscathed.
Yes that's probably the safer bet. Plus no tears here for the ones that don't.
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Money can only buy people if people still value the money. In a world where their money means less and less, they will have less power/ value and may not survive unscathed.
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I would say I would boycott Starbucks, but that would imply they have a product I desire.
I've never been in a Starbucks.The thought of drinking coffee that isn't does not appeal to me.
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My take is that the super wealthy already know there's no saving this mess, and they won't survive much longer either, so they're just squeezing the lemon for whatever juice is left before it all blows sky high.
This has been their mentality since late 70s
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It has always been their mentality.
In Ministry for the Future, one of the major plot points partway through the book is that eco-terrorists (eco-partisans, really, considering the subject matter and general gist of the book) start blasting planes out of the sky. They hit a few civilian airliners, but the vast majority of their targets are private jets.
Do with that what you will.
we could very reasonably get rid of CEOs
edit: i didn't mean murder 😭
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how much carbon dioxide does this supercommute produce, expressed in cars/day?
edit: i guess it's just cars
The commute itself? Hard to say. But according to the article, a billionaire produces emissions equivalent to a million average people.
There are 3,311 billionaires.
Once they are eliminated, that's the emissions of 3.3 billion people taken care of.
I want to know in paper straws per day.
How many bananas for miles travelled.
Hope it's a boeing
If it's a boeing, he ain't going......to reach his destination.
People don't achieve ultimate privilege by caring about other people.
Jesus, if I remember correctly, usually travelled by donkey or by foot
If Jesus had access to it, he'd totally be a fixed gear bicycle cat zooming through the alleyways of Jerusalem.
I bet every one of his corporate employees has to commute to work though. Hypocrites.
Starbucks just can't stop shooting itself in the foot. Just when it had given some concessions to the union. Fuck Starbucks.
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They do care about supporting genocide though
so does Taylor Swift
Starbucks is HORRIBLE for the planet
"Work"
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