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The NFP, particularly the hard-left France Unbowed (LFI), has demanded for their right to form a government. The party argued that since it won the most seats, it should pick the new prime minister. It has chosen Lucie Castets, 37, as its candidate.

However, Macron’s party, along with the conservatives and the far right, have promised to vote no confidence in a left-wing government.

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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 131 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh look. Liberals aligning with facists over paying taxes. Waow. I am so shocked.

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 116 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Typical liberal rejecting any shift to the left in favour of fascists.

It's great that the LFI managed to come this far even within a liberal framework, but real change has only ever come from organizing and applying pressure from outside the capitalist system to overthrow it. This should be a signal to french comrades to start organizing for that.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago

This is what always happens when a left party wins. The so called moderates pull every dirty trick in the book they never use against the right wing. Billionaire class has to stay in power.

[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't this basically a coup?

As always capitalists won't let real leftists come into power within their capitalist system, even if that means giving way to fascism. Revolution is the only way; winning an election is a bonus ad campaign.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The left didn't get a majority, so it's just parliamentary politics. It's a bit unusual for France where the biggest party tends to form a government, but that's a political norm we would have been happy to see broken had the Rassemblement national done as well as everyone expected it to.

What is more problematic is that the Cabinet is not allowed to vote in parliamentary matters, which Macron needed in order to marginalize the left. So he fired his Cabinet, so that they formally returned to parliament and could vote. The problem is, of course, that they don't have any replacements, and their roles need to be filled. So now they're voting in parlament while continuing their duties, giving the sleezebag Gabriel Attal the title "Outgoing Prime Minister Gabriel Attal", but not changing anything of substance.

It's not constitutional, but the courts let it slide, because they're as terrified of the French left as Hindenburg was of the Social Democrats.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 months ago

It isn't norm, it happened two times during the 5th republic and both times government was formed with little problem. This now is a coup in progress.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If voting actually changed anything, they wouldn't let us do it.

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

This. If you actually want positive change, go out and join a socialist org to take direct action. In capitalist states — specially imperial core ones — elections are just an ad campaign that won't bring any positive change for workers on its own.

Elections will, however, gradually shift to the far-right as long as liberals/capitalists are in power (see: overton window).

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The hard-left LFI reacted with fury, with its coordinator Manuel Bompard calling Macron’s comments an “unacceptable anti-democratic coup”.

Macron has previously called the LFI an “extreme movement” in an attempt to equate the far-left group with the far-right National Rally.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

LFI isn't hard left, nor far-left.

It's "normal" left. I say "" because in the past where you'd have more normal parties, they'd just be left of the mean, but nowadays are only normal because everyone else has turned insane.

So, let me rewrite it:

This decision was criticised by the LFI, with its coordinator calling Macron’s comments out as an anti-democratic coup.

The oligarch Macron has previously tried to slander the LFI as an “extreme movement” in an attempt to equate the centrist group with the far-right National Rally.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 53 points 4 months ago

LFI isn't even hard left, and it made all kinds of concessions even before now, like choosing Castets as candidate for PM who isn't even from their party.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 45 points 4 months ago

Fucking Macron.

He thinks he's a stronghold against polarization. Well, this shit is why people flee to the far right and to the far left.

And treating the French left as a huge threat is plain bullshit. There are two groups who could legitimately feel threatened by the French left - billionaires, who would have to pay taxes to fund the public sector, and the French left itself, which is too incompetent to ever cooperate and would shoot itself in the foot within weeks.

Meanwhile, Macron keeps destroying the country while promoting himself as the second coming of centrist Christ. A conservative by any other name.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Democracy is when you lose but stay in power anyway

Time to take off the culottes

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 32 points 4 months ago

Should have voted for the left wing if you wanted them duh, you fools!

Wait...

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 28 points 4 months ago

that thing you do when you are absolutely, positively, without a doubt, 100% sure you can fuck shit up even more.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Imagine the outcry if this had happened in a real democracy, like Venezuela.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago

Just imagine something like this happened in say Venezuela. 😂

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Very cool Rightist auto coup.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

damn they gave you a choice? i wouldn't of