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i don't since i don't read much and i am fine without the paper feeling mabye

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[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think I’m on my 3rd kindle now - I had the paper white, the voyage and now the oasis. I read loads, a good hundred books a year. I have lupus though and the arthritis in my hands was making it really painful to physically hold open a book. Plus I’d filled two huge bookcases in my tiny flat. The kindle is obviously much lighter and with a case or popsocket it doesn’t hurt me to hold it. I have damage to my vision now and the kindle has worked out brilliantly for that too - I’ve been able to upload a particularly legible font to help me out and adjusting the screen brightness has been kinder on my eyes too. They really come into their own when you go on holiday - the oasis is waterproof too.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

One of my favorite things is I can read on my side without having to switch positions with each new page turn.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never thought about real accessibility on kindles, but those are all huge benefits

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It was so depressing when I couldn’t hold a book anymore, I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say having a kindle changed my life.

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[–] ludwig@reddthat.com 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have e-book readers that use e-ink, and I love it. I can read books for hours and not have my eyes feel tired, that's what it was designed for.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a remarkable 2. Had it 2 years, use it daily for taking notes during consults.

I don't use it for reading or any other task. For me it's pretty much just an infinite notepad. For this purpose it's perfect. After 2 years it's cost has reduced to something similar to paper notepads and pens.

These devices are definitely not for everyone. They have a way to go to really fulfil their potential, but I wouldn't be without one.

[–] jtmetcalfe@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve had my eye on this for a while, I’m a rigorous notebook and pen note taker but the ability to search through notes would be a huge benefit - do you find the integration with other services to work well? (I would want to export notes to a separate cloud storage platform like OneDrive)

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, it doesn't work like that. You couldn't search hand written notes.

I've never tried it but I think the OCR stuff happens remotely and the only output is email. As in, you can email yourself a notebook and it will arrive as text. The whole idea of this seemed so clunky to me it could barely be called a feature.

Similarly with services like onedrive. I think you can upload a notebook to onedrive but not sync with onedrive.

This may have changed, I haven't looked into this for a long time.

My advice would be to think of the device as a paper notepad with infinite pages, nothing more. If that's not worth it for you then don't get one.

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I used my old ones a ton. I had the original nook and had been using it for 13 years. I finally upgraded to a newer one with a color e ink screen and I like it a lot. It’s a boox ultra tab c. It was pricey so I wouldn’t get it unless you really read a lot and like e ink

I use it for reading almost exclusively. I read 1-2 books a week and a few volumes of graphic novels/manga per week as well. I have poor vision and the e ink is much easier on my eyes than lcd/oled screens. I can read on this for hours but reading on a traditional phone/tablet/laptop gives me eye strain/headache after a few hours. It’s nice to have a screen you can read with no back or front light. I do use the front light at times but I usually have it off

It’s handy for taking notes and annotations. I’ve read it’s good for drawing as well but I am terrible at drawing so I don’t know. The stylus seems comparable to my friends Apple Pencil except you can use the back as an eraser like an actual pencil

battery life is much better to a traditional tablet - a charge lasts 2-3 days usually, can last longer if I keep the front light off and all the wireless radio stuff off. I’ve gotten it to last a week. It’s a bit heavy bc of the battery though

Wrt color it’s a mixed bag. It’s a very handy feature for manga and graphic novels. But the color panels are new tech so they come with issues; primarily ghosting/image retention. After some time I’ve found an ideal mix of settings to minimize the issue and make the color look as good as possible. The boox os also has a little nav ball that can quickly force a full refresh the screen at any point to remove any retained image. But the color is still not comparable to an lcd/oled by any means

Mine is based on a kaleido3 panel. There’s a newer gallery3 panel that has more vibrant color but with a trade off of noticeably slower refresh rates. It’s not actually an eink panel but something called acep; it was more meant for advertisements/billboards so quick refresh rates weren’t a priority. There’s also no real options for a device with it at the moment aside from one that has real mixed reviews and one that has an open preorder with no eta on delivery as far as I know.

It’s also a somewhat capable android tablet but I don’t really get this part. Like you can run YouTube and games and stuff. But i don’t know why you would bother? It’s workable but not nearly as good. The exception to this is web browsing depending on the site. Heavy text based sites work well in Firefox.

[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My spouse bought a Kindle Paperwhite that was gathering dust on a shelf, so I loaded it up and gave it a whirl. I absolutely love the thing: it's light, clear, easy to read, and easy to load things onto (especially via Calibre). The only thing I dislike about it is that the idle battery usage seems completely random at times. Sometimes I can leave it alone for two days and it'll be at half power, sometimes I go away for a few hours and it'll drop from 80% to 8%. Usually it's fine, but I've learned to keep a power source handy.

[–] vaselined@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Keep the airplane mode on

That's.. very unusual. I can use mine for weeks.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

There's something wrong with the device. Paperwhite's battery should last for weeks, especially if it's somewhat recent model. Try to calibrate the battery by charging it to full, and continue to charge couple more hours after it's full. Then use the device until the battery is completely empty (the device turns off by itself). And finally charge it to full. Do not charge it while you are discharging the battery, or interrupt the charging while charging to full. If that doesn't help, the battery might be faulty or there is something wrong on the software side of things.

[–] zac@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bought a Kindle Paperwhite in 2018, loved that and still use it as my carry-around book because I prefer reading on that over my phone. Recently bought a Boox Nova 2 for note taking, I don't use it for that as often as I want to but I still love reading comics on Tachiyomi and regular books synced with my Kindle through their app. Love my einks cause the battery lasts for weeks at a time

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a kindle (paperwhite I think) that I won in a raffle and I've grown to love it. Much lighter than a book or a phone, no cramps from holding my hand in strange positions, and a very gentle backlight. The only thing I don't like about it is being tethered to Amazon. When it dies I'll try to find an alternative that's still compatible with my library's ebook system.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should look into Calibre, it's library management software for e-readers, and it works wonderfully with a kindle.

You can convert between lots of different formats and load them to your reader from your PC or Mac.

I've loaded books from Google's service and public domain stuff from Project Gutenberg and archive.org. I've loaded some PDFs on it which are kind of janky, but sometimes workable depending on the book.

But basically, I'm not worried about being able to read a book on my kindle unless it's a PDF.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My main problem is that, if I let go online at all, it's reporting everything I read and when back to Amazon. I don't buy many kindle books.

You don't need to go online with calibre. you convert it to the file format you need and then connect Kindle to computer, drag and drop files.

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You can enable an email address for it and then can email EPUBs to it, so can use it without paying more to Amazon.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been really hankering for an 8 inch ereader, but it seems like everything needs to use a proprietary OS with all sorts of drawbacks. Is there anything out there that is more FOSS-minded, or is the best option to load a Kobo with KOReader and just disable as much of the main OS as possible?

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[–] dirkgentle@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a Kobo Libra 2, I quite enjoy it for borrowing books from the public library.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was originally thinking of getting a BOOX or so after my old tablet died. In the end I went with a Lenovo that was on sale instead, and that was a good choice.

I just don't have the use case for them, much as I love their screens. I already own a Kindle, so maybe I'll look into the BOOX again if my Kindle ever dies and I need a new reading device. I will say that I cannot imagine reading on an normal screen after reading on a Kindle for a while. There's so much eyestrain from looking at a lit screen compared to the more paper-like e-ink display. An important thing to note is that my current Kindle came with the back-lighting set up all wrong:
It was set to behave like a mobile screen, getting brighter the lighter the room was. But that's not how you'd use it IMO. I now set it up so it's off when it is bright, and dimly lit in the pitch dark, so that when there is external light it behaves exactly like an actual paper page, and only when reading at night in bed is there any backlighting so I don't have to keep the lights on.

[–] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Recently got a Onyx Boox Ultra and it's incredible compared to my previous Kobo. Basically, its 10" with stylus input and a keyboard case. The special sauce is it running Android, complete with the Google store. The display tech is advanced enough that normal apps, for instance Connect for Lemmy, work fine. I have mine setup with Syncthing, Home Assistant, Obsidian, it all just works, mostly. I'd recommend using a 3rd party launcher and not touching the Onyx account, though.

I've had great experiences with Kobo, though. I literally went through 4 models because they kept upping their game. They're less sketchy than Onyx and are very open; you can load your own books of nearly any format and modify it as it runs linux. You can even completely replace the OS.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I like the tech but I'm waiting for a phone with a 60Hz (minimum) color display to come out first. So I'll be waiting awhile.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're not kidding. Last I heard, full color eink was at less than 1 hz refresh rate.

But I can dream too!

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I have one and barely use it, but that's more about my reading habits than it is about the tablet. When I am in a good reading habit, I love it because it's frontlit, lighter than a book, and way easier to read while laying on my side.

[–] psysok@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I got a Sony PRS-505 from late 2007, around the time of the first kindle. At the time it was amazing to be able to travel with just that instead of travel guides and multiple novels like I did before taking up weight and space. That was also like two years prior to me getting a smart phone. Since then I have had two different kindles, but they did not have as much of an impact as that sony ereader did.

[–] sibloure@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have thought about getting a Boox e-ink tablet but currently just read ebooks on my phone. It's hard not to get distracted though with other apps installed.

[–] Andjhostet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I have the Leaf 2 and would highly recommend. Works great, and is much better for your eyes. I use it every day.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 3 points 1 year ago

I have an Kobo Glo since 2013 that is working well and still getting software updates. My only gripes are that the back light is a little too bright and it can lag a bit when following endnotes.

[–] Powerbomb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I bought a Kobo Libra 2 at the start of the summer, after trying reading both on my 7" OLED phone and a 14" OLED blet/tablet for about a year prior.

It's one of the best purchases I did this year.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is an example of a good e-ink tablet?

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Boox, Supernote and ReMarkable brands are a few of the typical choices.

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[–] _errer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I have a Nook Simple Touch. It’s nice to read on, but the button and touch screen are failing. I don’t know where it is. I mostly read on my phone or a paper book

[–] Whisper06@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I have an E-ink e reader. It’s nice on the eyes and books are super cheap along with not needing a bunch of physical space for the books. I love an actual book but I prefer the convenience of an electronic device and with the e-reader I can have at least a paper look and feel.

[–] bbmb@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In my curiosity, I bought a Nook Simple Touch off eBay for 15 dollars a few months ago. It actually works really great for reading EPUBs off Overdrive and OpenLibrary, and it definitely makes night reading a hell of a lot more comfortable, lasts quite long on battery, even as a cheap second hand device.

I love my paperwhite. Frankly I don't think I could enjoy reading on a typical screen, and I read other shit on my phone a LOT. So reading for fun I need that difference I guess.

Does anyone recommend any e-ink e-readers that have compatibility with apps? Mine is so old I can only get stuff directly from Amazon store but can't use the library apps like libby.

[–] xreidqwop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have a Supernote A5x, use it as a note pad, annotate cad plans on site and sketch basic renders on it, I use it a lot at work.

loaded it up with the kindle app, but I find it's a bit annoying to use the app, so I upload books as a pdf to a folder on it and that works. It's just a shame I have so many books locked into the kindle app. But it might get better with an update one day.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

I have one that can rent library books. It's decent and I like it, but there's no open standard, you are chained to their store. I want to be able to shop all stores including tiny real-world bookstores on my Kobo.

[–] skookumasfrig@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that e-ink is better for books, and tablets are better for magazines and comics. I like the feel of my ebook, it has very much the same kind of feel as a paperback. The larger format of a tablet is great for magazines, and being able to pinch and zoom is useful there too

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