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Yeah, but it's not the gotcha you think it is. The entire right-winger thing is whinging about everything being someone's fault. Particularly de gubmit. Even in cases when they are in a majority in said "gubmit" at the time, and have been for nigh on a decade.
Point is, you are implicitly giving these cretins too much credit in the rhetoric they use. It's not meant to make sense. It's meant to rile up rednecks/whatever-other-relevant-stereotype.
Oh no, I'm not giving them credit, I know they aren't up for actual logic. I'm just trying to strike up conversation on Lemmy with random brainfarts.
It's just funny when you start talking to some of these people, and they're used to arguing domestic opposition, blaming other Americans. So when someone non-American starts talking to them, their nationalism flares up and suddenly all the things that were shit due to the dems is not shit but glorious great, flawless America. I know it's overused as an expression, but dem fucking mental gymnastics are baffling.
Industrial strength cognitive dissonance, the only thing involving cognition they're good at at all.
You have to understand that they are not intellectually honest. They have no issues knowingly dwelling in a false narrative. The false narrative serves to normalize their movement and recruit people as they publicly repeat it unchallenged amongst each other.
Oh I do.
https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/
I understand they're willfully ignorant, but I can't honestly understand what makes them feel the need to do it. I understand reasons for it, but the deep meaning behind being like that... eludes me. And I've been thinking on this for at least a few decades.
There's the context of Trump riding the wave of right wing rage with his claims Obama was born in Kenya. Shortly after he paid a bunch of hourly extras to form a crowd as he descended a golden escalator to launch his 2016 campaign claiming Mexico was sending rapists, and a cadre of WWE fans, white supremacists, credulous evangelicals, and reprogrammable meatbags who tuned into Fox News decided politics was interesting again.
For most of these people if you start asking which years America was great versus not great they might admit some of the Bush years were sub-par (because of those OTHER people who hate freedom), and preach about the good ol' days when we drank water from a hose. Where everybody treated each other right, unless you were a person of color in a sundown town. They will retcon any facts you present and claim you are cancelling them and it's no fair remembering the past, as they have been conditioned to believe faith is a virtue. The Bible's "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" fucked up my brain for too many years of my life. I wish it was easier to fix this, but a useful quote I remember when I break off most discussions with my dad is,
If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic? -Sam Harris
The meme works as a double dog whistle. Simpletons find camaraderie in nostalgia while actual traitors recognize and organize around the damage they intend to cause.
I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned.
Stephen Colbert has a book titled America Again: Re-becoming the Greatness We Never Weren't
There was never anything "great" about the US - unless you believe that the world's largest experiment in white supremacism is (somehow) "great."
I can promise you with 100% certainty that we aren't all white supremacists
Correct. It won’t be great again until women are forced into the kitchen and slavery returns.
Yes
Always assume they are like terror billy dad. They want the nazis to round up everyone.
Kinda cray it didn't happen the first 4 years of Trump's presidency, huh?
Well the nazis are all out now. That's step q for that lot.
Yes, actually. Hell, lemmy will tell you that rent is sky high, wages are too low, theres not enough workers rights, just everything is fucked.
The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.
The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.
So different that it in no way, shape, or form solves anything.
The MAGA solution is just different than the left wing solution.
Lol! What "left wing" solution?
A ton exist, my friend. Ideas abound. Implementation is the challenge.
A ton exist, my friend. Ideas abound.
Such as?
....yeah? And both campaigns have taken place after those dirty commie dems were in charge.
Edit: Guys, I too, am a dirty commie dem.
