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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whenever someone calls something "socialist", ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it "Owningthelibism" or something.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had multiple times experiences like that with American redditors.

They would say that socialism is nazism because National Socialism.

So yeah, didn't know really what to answer to such level of ignorance.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

"Learn how German Komposita work, you illiterate dipshit!" is a pretty straightforward and effective reply.

I've always countered that with the following :

Yes, Nazi's, the very trustworthy group that would not lie about calling themselves socialists for propoganda and popularity reasons (post ww1 German public had popular sentiment with socialist ideas). The same ones that went out of their way to then kill Jews, communists, socialists, and other individuals that believed in socialistic ideals.

I'm also sure that the democratic peoples republic of Korea has very fair and free democratic elections!

If they continue arguing about it after that then I know they're a lost cause

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that's not socialism. It's just not neoliberalism.

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Bless the cold war brainwash with loads if patriotism on USA citizens. It seems to still be working.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are "socialists" running around who don't know what socialism is. Hint: it has nothing to do with government-subsidized services.

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[–] IHateReddit@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Woke socialist mob" when they're extra scared

[–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

*"Woke rainbow pedo socialist mob"

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

„Seize the means of wokeness lmao.”

  • Karl Marx
[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 4 points 1 year ago

That's the OG book cover from this meme I think.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i love all kinds of socialist shit:

socialized medicine

socialized housing

socialized transportation

you know what kinda' socialism SUCKS though? Socialized risk, where corporations get to distribute their burdens but hoard all their profits.

THAT kind of socialism needs to fucking die.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Socialized risk would be fine if the profits were also.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialized anything is not socialism either. It's just social policies.

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[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But that engine is somewhat socialist. It evenly distributes fluids throughout, each component having the same amount of influence on whether or not the engine as a whole can function. One stops working and the others all stop in solidarity.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's not. The four cylinders make up 5% of the engine but get 95% of the fuel.

And what usually causes engine failure? The cylinders. And who do we bail out each time? Those same goddamn cylinders.

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[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Everything I like is socialist, trains? Socialist. Gardening? Socialist. Cooking a huge meal where someone else does the dishes? That's socialism.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I like that engine.

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