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This is it. The leaks were true. He's gone for good.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Dems actually have a non-zero chance of winning now

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Really though? When was the last time a candidate won when they only campaigned for 3 months.

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Might be weird to Americans, but other countries like Canada actually limit their campaigns to 3 months total. I find it odd that you guys' politicians have a relatively major election every 2 years and essentially don't take a break from campaigning that entire time.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not useful in this analysis because the opponent has been campaigning for far longer. So while 3 months is a good campaigning time, it's not better than 12 months.

And of course we campaign year round because of money.

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What analysis? This comment chain isn't even about the text of the article. I'm not saying one is better than another, it's just a fact that other countries have shorter campaigns. 3 months is also not worse than 12 months so I'm not sure what your point is.

A long campaign isn't an inherent feature of democracy, it's just what the current American reality is. That doesn't matter to this particular election, but I'm pointing out that the way y'all do it isn't the only way in case there are people who genuinely don't know that.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How is 3 months of narrative development not worse than 12 months of narrative development? It's a clearly disadvantaged position.

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Campaign length =/= "narrative development," but okay. People can still do interviews and events and whatever, but no ads or official campaign duties.

It's so obvious you've never had to think about this before or how it could work, which is exactly why I made my first comment.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago

My god. You cannot keep your thinking straight, can you. I said 3 months is not enough time to counter the year long campaign of Trump. You said in Canada that everyone does it in 3 months. Which means, of course, that no one is competing with a year-long campaign in 3 months. How do you not see this?

You think that there's no advantage to ground game for literally 4 times longer than your opponent can possibly work? And that's IF the Ds nominee is selected quickly and they have a solid campaign strategy. More than likely the infighting and confusion is going to delay the creation of a coherent strategy so we're talking about less than 90 days while Trump's team has been working for the last year and now has the upper hand in narrative pacing because the Ds are in public disarray.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Biden is a decaying corpse bombing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to death. Kamala is safer, actually.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I disagree. She literally got on international television and told imigrants "do not come". As soon as she's asked about the Zionist entity she's going to alienate everyone that Joe did.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago

She's gonna do worse than Biden. Nobody that knows her actually likes her, even the donors don't like her.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not being a rotting corpse is likely a big selling point for many voters. Not every voter, of course, she isn't a beacon of progressivism, but it will be enough to sway the narrative.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

I can't wait to see her interviews. She comes across as a stoner and an imbecile.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 months ago

All his supporters made fools of themselves for absolutely nothing.

"It's just a stammer".

Making excuses for his child sniffing, raping, mass murdering.

Now at least these same people will find their morality again and criticise Trump for the same things.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Yes!

We actually did it! You are welcome America!

[–] Philote@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Now he can go out like a G and use that newfound presidential immunity.