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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Someone from the Florida Education Department probably bookmarked that 'Fact' for the next round of History Book printing.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Of course it wasn't about slavery, it was about taxes!

Abraham Lincoln, alone, ordered the invasion of the States soley to collect an average 40% federal sales tax (200% on plows and stoves used by pioneer farmers) to fatten the wallets of his Wall Street owners, who elected him with only 39% of the popular vote.

Abraham Lincoln declared his War was over taxes ONLY and not slavery, at all.

https://confederateheritage.org/BFMP-Lockhart.html

Saw that monument on a road trip once.

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[–] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I've had high school history teachers spout similar nonsense

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Oh come on, I'm sure he's heard much dumber fucking things.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Second guy has a great point, but doesnt he know you cant argue with someone that ends with "fact", cause it automatically makes them right?

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[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the post does have a tiny bit of truth to it, then goes wildly false.

As far as I know, Lincoln was not an abolishonist. He wanted to keep the status quo and allow southerners to keep their slaves and the northerners to continue to not allow slavery. He felt the Constitution protected the southerner's "property". The Union was what he cared about. I do think he was against adding more slavery in other states, and that's probably why southern states seceded.

Freeing existing slaves did come after an early loss in the war.

I'm just learning about all this now in a podcast, but I haven't completed the series so I could be very wrong. Or the podcast could be. It's American History Tellers.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

I kind of see it as Lincoln was almost a modern day centrist democrat. Basically there was an abolition plan... that was going to take a very long time. IE rather than going with abolishing slavery, the plan was that no new states would become slave states, and overtime the non slave country would have the votes to abolish slavery. Kind of reminds me a lot of say healthcare goes on today.

and just like modern day republicans... the confederate states made it clear they'd rather burn down the country than accept a slow change from the status quo.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Actually it was about the blooming onion becoming the national dish, what the northern states absolutely refused, because they couldn't agree on the dip.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Wait people still think America had or has their best interest? Fuck we're dead.

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