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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Emperor to c/uk_politics
 

It's time to see if the polls are right.

Previously: the voting megathread

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 60 points 4 months ago (20 children)

First Past the Post, everybody:

That's:

  • Conservatives: 19.5% of seats from 22.9% of the vote
  • Labour: 63.7% of seats from 35.2% of the vote
  • LibDems: 10.5% of seats from 11.3% of the vote
  • Reform: 0.6% of seats from 14.5% of the vote
  • SNP: 1.2% of seats from 2.5% of the vote
  • Others: 4% of seats from 13.6% of the vote
[–] Mrkawfee 40 points 4 months ago

The two largest parties got less than 60% of the national vote but over 80% of seats. FPTP is preventing us from being what we are: a multi party democracy.

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[–] PhylMoel 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a Tory wipeout in Wales!

CON: 0 (-12)

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[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm watching the BBC program, currently just discussing the exit poll before any official results.

Exit poll shows conservatives losing 241 seats, Labour landslide predicted with 410 seats. Not a huge surprise, but a welcome start.

I did find it entertaining that the labour guest in the show is congratulating Kier Starmer and Co. On a job well done, when really this is almost entirely caused by Tory self destruction.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Peter Mandelson? I think he had a point in that Starmer has changed the party from unelectable with Corbyn (which sadly, they were) to a more than realistic prospect for a sensible alternative to the Tories.

You're right of course that the Conservatives have utterly fucked the pooch (not to mention the country) but Starmer has nonetheless made a massive change in making the party palatable to many, many more people (not that I personally agree with quite a lot of his policies and policy reversals)

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[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 17 points 4 months ago

here is the entire exit poll for everyone interested btw:

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Ree Smog is out! I repeat, Ree Smog is out!

Yes, despite many leftists decrying Labour's centreward shift, I think this is a good result. This result was helped by that shift in no small part.

Starmer is very well spoken and his morning after speech does well to inspire confidence.

[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Top hat wanker! Truss lost too, this is amazing.

[–] echodot 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh good, so now Truss can now piss off too the US and moan about the apparent conspiracy that was against her all she likes, and it won't inconvenience her constituents anymore.

And of course no one in the US will really care, because will have no idea who the hell she is.

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[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is clearly a great result, but I think that given the popular vote, that it's important to accept that this election was anti-tory, not pro-labour.

Labour have five years to make a substantial tangible change in people's lives or we may very well find ourselves back where we left off or even worse.

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[–] UKFilmNerd 24 points 4 months ago

I don't want to see Reform get any seats really when it's filled with people like this.

They're just a live action version of the Daily Mail. They only believe immigrants and trans people are a problem because Farage and his crew tell them so. Otherwise I bet those groups of people have barely any impact on their daily lives whatsoever.

[–] Emperor 24 points 4 months ago

Just seen Count Binface arrive for the count, shit just got real.

[–] twinnie 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like Reform got a lot of votes despite not getting many seats. Those nasty cunts aren’t going to shut up about this for the next 4 years.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Jacob Rees Mogg suggesting Conservatives were demolished because they weren't far right enough. Interviewer says "don't you think maybe it's because you let down the centre?" And Mogg is like "no way. Maggy Thatcher is based."

😬

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

I mean, I hate him, but he's right. Reform are basically the newest farage far right party, so the rabid nazis of britain aren't satisfied with the bullshit the tories are serving up.

EDIT : they got fed up of still seeing ethnic minorities after brexit, and don't want to vote for an ethnic minority for prime minister. It's disgusting.

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[–] Flax_vert 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

1000042334

Reform didn't gain many seats but came 3rd in total votes

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

The entire C4 panel laughed at Nadine when she just couldn't stop talking about Boris Johnson

[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is as late as I can stand. I'll check back in the morning for the final scores. If it was anything resembling a closer election I might have stayed up. I'm hoping the exit poll has over estimated the tories and reform, with a few extra opposition parties.

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[–] blackn1ght 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It blows my mind that Tory candidates get even a single vote. Who's voting for them?!

[–] RedStrawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And reform, its bloody terrifing seeing them get so much support

[–] blackn1ght 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. They've been coming second in most results so far. Not sure how much of it is a protest vote against the big two or people like their policies.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Happy to see the Tories get obliterated, but not feeling confident about the incoming Labour government. The fact that a bunch of Tories defected to them and they were endorsed by the Sun is a bad sign IMO.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

After seeing the first few results come in, my main worry is how Starmer's Labour will react to the rise of Reform. If Labour cannot visibly begin to turn things around, and they also fail to effectively counter the building populist undercurrent, we could be heading for some dark times.

We will have to see what exactly Starmer's Labour will actually do once it has power.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Two Tories defected to them, and neither of them were standing for election this time, it was just a gesture against Sunak (although I do wish Labour had told them to fuck off).

And as for the S*n, they just put their weight behind whoever is going to win.

Labour and Starmer are far from perfect, but I think they will be far better, even if just from a competence and basic human decency standpoint.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

And as for the S*n, they just put their weight behind whoever is going to win.

I was a bit surprised the S*n did switch to Labour. From what I've heard there still a grudge amongst Murdoch and his minions towards Starmer, due the prosecutions he pursued as DPP during the phone hacking scandal.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've just switched over to watch Sky News' feed on YouTube. The allow chat, which for a serious news organisation is absolutely wild to me.

And the chatters are absolutely insane. Not in a good way. There's no attempt to discuss anything, just people spamming "💙💙 REFORM IS RISING 💙💙" and "🟥🟥 Labour Forever 🟥🟥🟥🟥". And weirdest of all, many variations on "netherite helmet trim".

Wtf does netherite helmet trim mean?

[–] Emperor 24 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Minecraft.

And the chatters are absolutely insane. Not in a good way. There’s no attempt to discuss anything, just people spamming “💙💙 REFORM IS RISING 💙💙”

Reform have an online army that swarms comment threads. Not sure how many of them are based in Russia.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the proper way to watch youtube chat is to click on the x.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

It's subtle, but see if you can tell what party she represents. (lower third graphic unrelated)

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Starting the day and seeing Rees snob, grant schnapps and penny mordor are out.

Feels like a good start to the day

Oh and Liz snubbed

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit the crowd's reaction at Jeremy Corbyn getting 24,000. 😲

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Aww, Sunak retains.

Also, the ITV guy referred to Count Binface as "Mister". The disrespect. 😞

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm in maidstone, as blue as it gets. i'll be watching everyone else turn red with envy

[–] britishblaze@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

NW Cambridgeshire here, it's never been anything but Blue since it's formation, I still doubt it would change.

Edit: It went Labour by 40 votes. Damn never felt my vote mattered more than now. And thank you Reform for splitting it so close.

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[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

So looking forward to the next five years...

Looking at how Reform and Lib Dems made significant gains in vote share you have to wonder if its still worth Labour chasing after the right wing vote that Reform achieved. I just do not see the where the voters who voted Reform actually believe Starmer on the key issues that Reform campaigned on, immigration, anti "woke", and Brexit. I cannot see Labour ever gaining the lead on those issues over someone like Farage who will always position himself to the right of whatever Labour or the Tories campaign on. I cant even see Labour being trusted at the voting booth on these right wing issues over a rebuilt Tory party. Its a fools errand to try.

The Lib Dem vote share, as with Reform, boosted by previous Tory voters but Lib Dems campaigned on almost the opposite of Reform (with some tactical, local, NIMBYism) and achieved way more seats on a lower overall percentage vote than Reform. If you are going to pick a direction to go in, wouldn't it make more sense to move towards the Lib Dems position to shore up in time for the next election?

Labour did worse total percentage of the vote than 2017, its more that the Tories collapsed losing about 20% of their vote that caused this swing in seats. The Tories will rally next time around and a lot of the seats look winnable for them with only a small local swing. The current stance of Labour simply isn't popular enough to be a vote winner against a rebuilt Tory party.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an Australian, I have to once again apologise on behalf of my nation for the turd in a tuxedo that is Rupert Murdoch.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I figure satire articles probably aren't allowed in the general community, but hopefully it's ok in the megathread? This was brilliant.

https://theshovel.com.au/2024/07/05/australia-loses-shortest-time-to-5-pms-ashes/

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[–] mannycalavera 15 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Anyone got that link that recalculates the results of the GE by different voting systems? For example if we had a form of PR how would this election turned out? I swear it was posted here a few days ago.

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[–] JohnSmith 15 points 4 months ago

Toot-toot, moog got the boot!

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Truss is out! Defeated by Labour candidate Terry Jermy by only 630 votes.

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fuck happened in Leicester East that it's the sole Con gain in the country?

[–] theo@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Their last two Labour MPs not only were kicked out in scandal, but also ran in this election splitting the vote. It looks like the Lib Dems also got a significant vote share which has helped the Tories.

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[–] Mrkawfee 12 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Labours majority is huge but vulnerable. It's clear that Reform bled millions of votes away from the Tories.

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[–] fakeman_pretendname 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Quick question - does anyone have the link to that "Tories being voted out" bingo card website? It was posted a few days ago, but I can't find it.

[EDIT] Found it - Feddit thread - I've probably not formatted the link properly
Torygeddon Bingo Website

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