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Anthony Davison's analysis of Verstappen/Norris fights - moving under braking + crash (streamable.com)

submitted 5 months ago by TheMalWare@lemmy.ml to c/formula1@lemmy.world

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Max's 2019 move lmao, came with receipts

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Great analysis.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

After the crash, Max drove his car back to the pits shedding carbon and rubber around the circuit. Wasn't it very recently that a 3 place grid penalty next race was handed out for doing the same thing?

[–] l_b_i@yiffit.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perez was a clear retirement, there was no repair possible. The rear wing assembly could have fallen off. The only reason he brought the car back is the team told him to to avoid the possibility of a safety car.

As far as I know, Max only maybe had slight damage from the contact, plus the loose tire, drivers regularly drive back to the pits in this configuration. They don't usually keep racing/defending with a flat tire though.

[+] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So you think Perez knew how bad the car was damaged, whereas Max knew it might be slight damage even though he was on three wheels? Quite a take. I also have to point out that Perez's wing didn't fall off on track, but Max left crap through several turns. But, there's always an excuse when it comes to Max.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The world could see on cameras that Perez’s wing was fucked. Cars have been leaving small bits of bodywork and tire scraps for 70 years, not a big deal and isn’t penalty worthy

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

I'm sure Perez could see all that on a track big screen next.

[–] l_b_i@yiffit.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and even if he didn't the team should have told him, because they did know. From the report: "The team confirmed in the hearing that the driver had been advised to bring the car back to the pits as they were trying to avoid a Safety Car situation."

If you penalize a car every time they drop carbon on the track your probably going to have at least one a race. Where did Leclerc's end plate go, he was missing part of his wing. How about the bits of Norris's tire that were flying everywhere, and probably bits of carbon from the floor because of it.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"But, there's always an excuse to shit on Max when it comes to Max."

There, fixed it for you. I get it, you are not a fan of Max but please stop inventing.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Max is such an abused guy, isn't he? I'm not inventing anything, and certainly not an excuse unlike you.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl -2 points 5 months ago

Sure. You do you. Have a great day.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 7 points 5 months ago

Norris was shedding even more though!

They could have both made it back safely if they went slower, but good luck getting them to do that after that fight.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you truly suggesting that people should retire from now on if they have a puncture¿?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

What I'm suggesting is there is no constancy in the way the FIA determines their own rules.

[–] urquell@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think the first move was fine as it's a single move into the corner. At least I've seen that before.

The final one though, max at fault 100%. Even tried to run him off afterwards.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Slight movement under braking especially when that movement is towards the apex of the corner has been done for years. Bad but still has precedence.

[–] urquell@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Yep, agreed.

[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The fact it's a British driver/team and the British GP is this week just adds shit for everyone to stir up. I'm expecting the circus to even more unbearable for the next few weeks.

Loving the fact we have competition at the front though!