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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 310 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both variants are pretty wtf to me. Not necessarily showing the pictures but explicitly pointing out their genitals.

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[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 225 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I would argue the top picture is also a big no no.

[–] krippix@feddit.org 82 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I thought that is the point

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Dark Arc is saying that it is generally considered a bad thing, contrary to the comic which is implying that it is generally considered good or neutral when it should be considered bad.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (26 children)

you guys missed the point. neither should be bad. it's only bad because of how we sexualize eveything. it's the sexualization that's bad, and honestly, that wouldn't even be that bad if it weren't for the patriarchal exploitation of sex.

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[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 127 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I get a chuckle about Ultra sound images as well. It's fine if a woman wants to post those photos of her insides on the Internet. But I'm the bad guy if I say "Jessica pop that pussy open let's see it in person."

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You can't see the baby without the ultrasound. It's not like you could grab a speculum and get a good look in person.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (10 children)

You've obviously never been in one of those flashlight enthusiasts groups. They'll gladly tell you how you can see anything if you light it enough.

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think it might be the clinical word vagina vs wee wee, but vajayjay still would be weird in this context. Honestly, dont show strangers your kids genitals.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Yes, all genitals seem weird to show people. I don't even show them to my parents. I tried not to take them at all, and instead tried to take a few with angles that obscured any private areas. I think my parents have seen a couple of those, but I don't even send them.

Perhaps the comic is from the mindset 40 years ago. I could easily see parents of that era doing this and thinking it was fine.

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[–] Flax_vert 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never knew it was acceptable to do this with boys

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It is. My mom did it. I've seen many other moms do it.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 53 points 5 months ago (2 children)

His issue was phrasing. The woman used a euphemism which significantly shifted her perceived intentions. “Look at his little wee-wee” is far removed from “look at his little penis.” Synonyms are not created equal, so simply substituting without considering connotation will only cause confusion. He should have said “get an eyeful of her little vagina.”

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 127 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look at her little vajayjay, nope still weird.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 65 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gawk at her crack, mate!

Nope.

[–] Firoaren@sh.itjust.works 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gander her bandersnatch

Hmm

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think if he referred to it as her little pussy or cunny it would make it significantly worse.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (15 children)

That's more adult slang for vagina. Little kid euphemism would be something like hooha or twinkle.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Man saying that to another man is still questionable. Still sounds like he’s lending his child out for drugs.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

I feel.like we generally give women a pass on A LOT of weird behaviors about children.

That does include elevated attention to the genital area (seriously, why? Leave our genitals alone ffs), borderline fetishizing breastfeeding, and also a lot of other stuff.

Like, for example, I had several women independently telling me how baby feces smell nice and milky. Like, what the hell and why do y'all feel it's appropriate for a casual conversation???

Or that they love to smell baby feet. Huh? Funny thing I first got those stories after seeing a TV ad (was a while ago) with a woman burying her face in baby feet.

I can only assume this is either a result of hormonal shifts throughout pregnancy, or that there's plenty more female pedophiles than we knew.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

People are too weird about genitals. Our culture finds it so uncomfortable to talk to their sons about cleaning their penis that we started cutting the foreskin off to spare them the embarrassment.

[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago

Depends where in the world you are. In the US it was popularized by Dr Kellogg to curb masturbation. He also recommended a few drops of carbolic acid applied to young girls clits to damage the nerves and avoid what he called "abnormal excitement".

Dude was opposed to pretty much anything even vaguely resembling pleasure, he invented corn flakes as a food to be as bland and tasteless as possible. The only reason they ever became a popular breakfast cereal is because of his brother adding sugar to them despite Kelloggs objections

'cleanliness' and 'looking like their father' were later justifications after the practice had already gained traction.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

women are pure. they can talk about a baby's genitalia and it's cute. if a man wants to be a kindergarten teacher, though, whoa, pedophile alert!

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[–] A_A@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

About smell :
"In 2021, inhalation of hexadecanal was found to reduce aggression in men but to trigger aggression in women.[4] Hexadecanal is one of the most abundant substances emitted by human babies from their heads, which may be an evolutionary survival mechanism to induce mothers to defend the baby and fathers to not attack it. But it is not yet known whether the amount of hexadecanal emitted by humans is sufficient to affect other humans."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecanal

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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 49 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I mean, penises are just inherently funny. Look at them, they’re ridiculous.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

My mom was one of those top ladies. 😬

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

It's OK kolanaki, I find your wee wee very cute too

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[–] Nicoleism101@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (41 children)

You guys want to consider gender in vacuum but it is never a good idea.

Look at the sexualisation and brainwashing of the girls and patriarchy and men having this big power gap and sometimes using it in the most monstrous of the ways even today let alone 100 years ago. This is why the second image is big wtf while the first is small wtf.

That’s because in the first no one would immediately think that they sexualise the boy while in the second we arrive at this conclusion immediately and without hesitation thanks to all the hard work of men thorought history.

I know having this original sin of your fathers on your shoulders is not a cool feeling but this is the reality we are in.

The sooner this collective PTSD heals and that can only happen after some time of treating women as humans, the better for everyone. Problem is that point in history is far, far away considering the core issue is still prevalent.

It will take another 100 years of intense education and raising new generations to have the society that isn’t obviously fucked up and deeply hurt.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No one in the picture or the audience is sexualizing little girls (or boys). Instead, the outrage is caused by harmful expectations of purity that are imposed on girls and women, but not boys. As well as the current moral panic about pedophilia, which again is unhelpful in actuality protecting children.

Want to protect help children from predators? Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens. Failing to do so reinforces the feelings of shame that all too often enable predators to get away with what they do.

And maybe also don’t share potentially embarrassing photos without consent but that’s small potatoes compared to the above issues.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 45 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens.

This. So much this. If auntie wants to give them a kiss and they don't want to get slobbered then tough fucking luck auntie, I'll back the little shits up when they bite you. Predators are, by and large, able to do what they do because people don't teach kids that they do, in fact, have bodily autonomy.

And while I'm at it bodily autonomy of kids also implies that parents don't parade photos around like some fucking trophy or something. Have some basic fucking regard for your own kids and what they want. How would you feel when they're showing nude pictures of you to their classmates yeah I thought so.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Having had four kids, if you are showing people pictures of any baby in the bath naked, they're gonna be upset no matter the gender. I don't think his is true at all.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could burn half my mother's photo albums.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

You can. Just not yet

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