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/r/ask_transgender calls people who refuse to vote for Genocide Joe "anarcho-kiddies" (old.reddit.com)
submitted 5 months ago by Sator_is_Tense@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net
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As shitty as it is, this country 1. Isn't designed in such a way that would allow a third-party candidate a genuine chance of winning and 2. Has too many centrists that will vote for Biden regardless. Trump has repeatedly garnered heavy support in Republican polls, so they're pretty much almost all in on him. Splitting the blue vote between Biden and whoever else will only lead to a Trump victory after which we might not even be ABLE to vote in 2028.

I'm legitimately having a panic attack. These airheaded anarcho-kiddies are genuinely going to land us all in camps.

biden's doing literally nothing to stop states from criminalizing lgbt people's existence emilie-pain

their fears about a trump presidency are valid but i wish these libs would stop putting their hopes in the DNC when its clear they have zero interest in running a candidate that isn't complete dogshit

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm legitimately having a panic attack. These airheaded anarcho-kiddies are genuinely going to land us all in camps.

Meanwhile the guy you support is literally putting people in the largest concentration camp in the world. How fucking selfish can you be. Oh no don't put me in a camp, I'm fine with you putting all those people in a camp but not meeeee!

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Liberals’ problem with the Nazis is that they targeted the wrong people

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Nah their only problem with the Nazis is that they went west first instead of east.

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

There’s literally a whole poem about this. Read theory, I guess?

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
  1. Isn’t designed in such a way that would allow a third-party candidate a genuine chance of winning

Then it can die.

  1. Has too many centrists that will vote for Biden regardless.

Then it (and all of the centrists still setting time tables on our liberation, while we're at it) can die too.

Death to anyone who votes for EITHER tribe of capital. Death to the Presidency. Death to the settler empire. Till all are fed and all have beds, my skin is Black, my star is Red.

First of all, Israel is only committing genocide in the same sense that we did immediately post 9/11.

Oooh, the self-snitching is peak today. I love watching people admit Amerika's just as genocidal as the monsters they've claimed to fight.

Again, in three years when Trump's god gestapo throw us all into camps because he decided being queer is against god's will, I hope you look fondly on this moralizing.

Someone tell these cancerous ladder-pullin crackers that skinfolk (or in this case, supposedly-ideological skinfolk, 'cause I don't believe these genocidaires bonafides) is most certainly not kinfolk; and that we have no interest in washing our hands in their trough of blood. I don't think they're internalizing it.

When I die, I'll be able to look the divine I worship in the eye and account for, stand on everything I've done and said like it's my business; and 'opposing the genocidal and monstrous' will be one of them. These crackers will not be able to say the same.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

First of all, Israel is only committing genocide in the same sense that we did immediately post 9/11.

My fuckin eyes popped out of my head when I saw that. That's not a defense...

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really wish you would stop with the hyperbolic calls for mass death because as an autistic person I cant read them and just get upset at all the killing I think you want to do. Killing everyone who has EVER voted Democrat is a looot of people, especially since most of this site are ex-libs lol (demographic surveys bare this out).

To me its an accesabiltiy issue. I technically understand you're being hyperbolic but my auitsm just sees calls for mass death that I find absurd, unhelpful, and redioculous and I want to respond in that way. I wrote up a massive rant that I deleted off advice from a friend but I still want to express this.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Then block me, but don't you ever police my goddamn tone again. I have to live in a bullshit world of crackers that exterminates people like me on a daily goddamn basis ALREADY, never goddamn mind the hypothetical camps people like Those redditors anticipate. Now, I don't know who tf you think you are; but it sure as shit isn't kin enough to me for me to NOT see this as the same liberal optics shell games crackers have been trying to make me play for 15 years.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Is an autistic person asking for accessibility really tone policing to you? Like are we just going to throw intersection out the window here? I can make an effort to understand that you're being hyperbolic and will. But like, I dont like that the concerns that I have as an autistic person are being treated as just the usual "liberal optics" or whatever.

Trying to my best to talk to you like a human here. But when historically any time autistic advocacy and other forms of oppression have a difficult intersection (which they do frequently) the autism side gets thrown in the garbage as irrelevant whining it gets a little frustrating.

Like I mean, at the end of the day, I'm used to ableism not mattering even in leftist circles the moment it becomes difficult and its not just simple stuff like dont say the r word. And I've already had a close friend tell me that my concerns here don't matter because I'm white and somehow that just makes my autism irrelevant to the equation lmao. Like people fucking HATE actually hashing out difficult intersection and since autism makes intersection difficult on a daily basis its always well just fuck the autistic side of the problem lmao. I've seen it happen with feminism, and now here it is happening with race. Whatever.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So what you're telling me is that the only way to prevent trans genocide is for Democrats to win every election for every seat, forever? And then you just hope they don't decide to compromise across the aisle out of fairness like they do constantly when in power or form a Democratic Anti-Trans caucus that pushes for it just like DFLA has done with abortion?

Yeah, that all seems like a feasible and robust strategy with long-term stability.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago

This precise argument is what broke me forever from national level politics ie "voting the lesser evil" for president stuff. Matt Christman made this argument years ago on Chapo (I'm not saying he did it first but his way of explaining really stuck in my brain). Basically as you said something like "if the Trump and the Republicans are the fascists, and the only way to beat them is to vote for the Democrats every 2-4 years, and if we ever lose an election then it's over, then we've already lost!" Something to that effect. Which obviously he's 100% correct about.

The other thing that convinced me, and it may have been Matt or the other boys, unsure, was the observation that if the democrats truly truly believe that Republicans are an existential threat to the Democratic Party, the country and the world they sure don't act like it. Meaning that when they have power they never do actions necessary to reverse the harm of Republicans. So in that scenario, how is voting for the "lesser evil" who either is lying about their belief about Republicans or is too cowardly to act or doesn't want to act, etc. actually any different, besides the timescale of [bad thing]? And the obvious conclusion is... if the Democrats are serious, if you believe their claims, yet they do not act when given full power, then it doesn't actually matter which one is in power. The genocide that Biden decided to fully back has really driven a nail in the coffin of any semblance of "lesser evil"-ism.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Just spent 15 mins making 15 comments, a new record, what's your excuse for not brigading? im-doing-my-part im-doing-my-part im-doing-my-part

Edit: I got the thread locked, how you like them fuckin apples che-smile

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I felt a wave of intense anger bubble up and decided to get a sandwich instead

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't bother getting mad, judging by the responses I'm getting these people are political toddlers

unfortunately you have to vote for him if you prefer to keep personal liberties we enjoy.

I mean look at this goofy shit

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just off the top of my head, while Biden was in office we've seen porn essentially banned in some states, various types of vaping, consideration of a menthol cigarette ban, the House passed a TikTok ban and Biden has encouraged the senate to pass it so he can sign it, and we've seen 'free speech' completely eroded to whatever degree it existed with a clown show in congress of Nazis grilling libs over pro-Palestine protesters whom they both agree are "antisemitic."

Biden sure does love personal freedoms

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Don't forget a big one. He literally did nothing when abortion got banned.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope "anarkiddy" becomes the new "tankie" and all the MLs in the audience have to put up with being called it. It's only fair that we swap once in a while.

[–] Seryph@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be the first time an ML would be called an anarchist considering State and Revolution was derided as too anarchist by other bolsheviks when it was made

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Lenin is an anarchist now? Y’all really need to stay in your lane

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

synthesis: tankiddie, anartankiddie

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the one thing I knew about Harris before the 2020 primaries was that she was particularly cruel to transwomen in her jails. Like she made a point to be, so much that it was a scandal in a country this transphobic.

[–] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

The courts ordered her to provide trans health care, said it was 'cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th amendment' to deny services. She fought with every tool available, delaying and appealing to a higher court when told no. Using TERF language that trans healthcare causes irreversible damage and that inmates can wait until after they are no longer her problem. [2015]

"There is no evidence that irreversible treatment is immediately necessary"
"the record demonstrates that the Defendants will be irreparably injured if the district court’s order stands and surgery goes forward"

Her explanations changed over time. From 'no comment', to 'the law is forcing me to do this', then 'it is unfortunate my staff did all this, I was actually fighting this injustice and despite being in charge was powerless to stop them'.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Ash why is hexbear the only trans space you visit?" shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see this sentiment a lot here and it seems like a no brainer that this is that place not just because it is explicitly trans positive, but explicitly revolutionary in its politics. Any space that is not sufficiently radical will always let the ladder pullers lib up the place and carry water for fascists and bigots.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

It is the perfect combo!