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[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 164 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

Yes, Stalin bad.

But Guevara is not Stalin.

Marx is not che

Engels is not Marx

China is not communist.

Marxism is not materialism

Socialism is not communism

Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 114 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[–] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 71 points 2 years ago

or "russia is correctly in invading ukraine"

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[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When a liberal says "tankie" they mean anything remotely communist-looking. When a leftist says "tankie", they mean authoritarians who like red flags and self-proclaimed communists who nonetheless support hierarchies and have no plan or intention to bring them down. I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

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[–] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (33 children)

Is the USA a “functioning” state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

I hope you realize that this is an incredibly privileged take. The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn't even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot's Cambodia, or (to a less extreme extent) Maduro's Venezuela. To compare what a US citizen deals with on a daily basis due to capitalism to what a citizen of any of those countries had to go through is very reductive and may be perceived as disrespectful to many who had to live those experiences.

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[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 128 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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[–] rowie324@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 2 years ago

tankies more like no thankies

[–] lazy_digestive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This comment section is really something uh

[–] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 130 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 73 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[–] fae@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (6 children)

tankies arent radical left. they are authoritarians ffs

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[–] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

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[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[–] dsmaster7173@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

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[–] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 2 years ago (3 children)

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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[–] animelivesmatter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

finds social media developed by tankies

looks inside

finds tankies

fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

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[–] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

[–] Kaladin_Stormblessed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 2 years ago (41 children)

that sub often tended towards outright anti-leftism

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[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 51 points 2 years ago (18 children)

What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

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[–] BalconyPhantom@dataterm.digital 42 points 2 years ago

Vaush moment

[–] starship_lizard@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (25 children)
[–] chalkman@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 years ago (121 children)

Hard-core authoritarian communist. The kinda peeps who support Stalin and shit

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[–] lauchmelder@einweckglas.com 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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I have always wondered why it always says "Kick _" when she is punching instead of kicking. Lol.

[–] 1988Passive_Browsing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

300 Comments already. Oh my god! Lol.

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[–] NoTime@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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