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Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?
To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?
"Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter?" Hell nah! Polar opposite here.
I absolutely hate it when sites randomly redesign to look "modern" and "hip" or whatever you want to call it. Forcefully adding flashy, colorful stuff that you can't turn off again or opt out of is a surefire way for me to dislike the site in question immediatly. Emojis, animated smileys, glitter effects, neon-colored letters, autoplay-animations, and worst of all: sound effects! Nope. Nu-uh. Get that sh*t away from me. I like my black-squared, simple layout and silent browsing experience, thank you very much.
Strange, I think Lemmy highly resembles Reddit. Maybe this user is talking about an app? Ironically, the apps are what this is about.
I think critiques are pretty helpful in the early stages of growth. There's several little UI/UX tweaks we can do to make these places feel more inviting.
Lots of people are listing bug reports or submitting PRs, I've got one going that'll add your profile image next to your name, something simple but nice to have.
With time these sites are all going to shine :)
I’d rather see avatars removed entirely.
Are those points meant to be bad things?
Using Kbin, and the default minimalistic design with everything in discrete text-boxes reminds me much more of older forum's than Reddit ever did. I like it!
That's also the beauty of Lemmy... they can host an instance of their own, and customize it to their hearts content, while still having access to the broader community's content!
Ah, a preview of people defending Reddit for removing old.reddit eventually.
Lemmy is still a baby. I am sure we'll see tweaks/improvements over time. We'll also see scripts/extensions. Overall, I am enjoying my experience using Lemmy.
Just wait till they have to use the reddit app only. Plus if these people want to they can invest there time and run a Lemmy instance. Develop their own tools to make it look the way the want. Rather than complaining about free too hosted freely by people who care.
They are kinda right though. An appealing design is important for many people. (Except for some reason people involved in opensource and linux stuff... fite me!)
Also a nicer design doesn't mean that it will be cluttered. You're just creating a strawman there.
It's FOSS so someone will probably make what they want, if they just give it a sec to appear for free out of thin air then they'll have to come up with another excuse.
I wouldn't worry. Those are the people that joined Reddit late (in the last few years) and came from other social media platforms (like Facebook). I think Lemmy is safe for a long while at least.
They had me at dark grey and blue
The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?
I agree. The content is key.
You can skin and theme an instance however you want, and the lemmi-ui code is open source so you can completely customize that side of things too. It's a complete non issue the instant someone with design capabilities contributes.
Yeah, I'm over here writing CSS to remove junk (avatar icons, sidebars, etc) from Lemmy pages because it's not text-only enough.
It's cool that others like a fancier view. I want it to be almost nothing but text.
This is an actual use case for 'the customer is always right'. No matter how much you prefer the layout, there will be others that prefer something else. And if we want to attract more users, that's something that we'll need to consider.
By far the most off-putting thing about lemmy is how people think themselves too good to consider the preferences and experiences of the average user coming from reddit.
Was using Lemmy on my phone via browser, and I darn near swooned at how clean and tidy and useable it was.
Agreed! I was thinking initially that an app would be nice since most websites kind of suck, but this looked great on mobile and I doubt an app is necessary if the clean trend continues.
Coming from apollo i could agree it could look alot better but its still miles above the native reddit app.
I don’t quite understand how we cant use kbin style on the rest of lemmy. Or hexbears super nice looking theme which is a fork of lemmy.
The basic platforms are more successful. They are faster and less user hostile.
old.reddit.com Hacker News Old Digg Old Fark
I definitely miss Reddit's stylesheets. Giving mods control over the page's CSS was just really neat. Everything had an individual flair
Let's not kid ourselves, some subs were awful. Few like mildly infuriating actually were creative with it and added to the experience. Others were crimes against design. I disabled them with RES globally and only activated a few select ones. Too many mods thought that red text over black background was a good idea. Then there were those who had a highlight effect on the selected comment and made the white text unreadable. Design is a Art.
Yea I had it set to never use custom CSS, imo was much better that way.
I hope we get a chance to customize to our liking at some point - but not like it matters that much to me anyway since I'm mostly mobile. I just hope my rif-like app comes soon enough.
Super strange though to complain from Reddit the lack of customization.
Normal users don't want to spend time to customize! The site should just provide a few reasonable, good-looking options by default...
People aren't like "oh this looks bad, I'm gonna make it look nice", they are more like "Oh this looks bad, so it must be a bad site, I'd better leave".
I love the fed designs. The dark minimalism is so nice and clean.
There is like 10 or so apps in development for Lemmy rn and I don‘t know if any for kbin, but I fully expect some of these apps to allow us to change themes.
A lot of these people don't understand that Lemmy and other sites like this are made by coders and not UI people. It took me a while to get use to the stripes back nature of Lemmy but it makes sense when you start using it.
Idk, customized accents and images/identity is an accessibility thing for a lot of people, helps them have a sense of being where they're intending to be & not lost in the content soup, which I do think a lot of decentralized projects do fall a little flat. It's a tough line to toe!
(edit: i think i maybe misunderstood some here, but imo lemmy's ui could use a little more clarity and polish, but ultimately like its lighter load visually)
Honestly I like it better than old.reddit for some things. Comments are automatically scaled up to a friendly size. I'm not killing my eyes by being too lazy to zoom in anymore ha.
Some of the formatting could use work, but it's hardly a deal breaker.
People saying these things are the summer children of the internet. They are innocently naive and simply don't understand what they saying.