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Thanks Dems for doing jack shit about abortion bans, trans bans, the cost of living, the drone strikes, global warming, COVID.

Might as well just call them Blue conservatives. The outcome of voting for them is much the same.

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[–] iesou@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Also found out you aren't allowed to strike if you work for railroads

[–] Acer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, they are blue conservatives. American politics are horribly skewed to the right, so your options are between conservative-lites and literally Nazis lol y'all are fucked.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone else is unelectable, according to... my "Shadow, Inc" Iowa Caucus App projections.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dirt Owl with one of those doctors' reflex hammers, meticulously tapping every possible lemmy lib struggle session topic and standing back to watch.

I'm here for it sicko-hexbear

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden has been demonstrably, measurably worse on covid than Trump. If I had to vote for one of them today, and I was going to do it based solely on “who is going to get less people killed?” I would vote for Trump, and that’s fucking horrifying.

The bar was buried 6 feet underground along with hundreds of thousands of people dead from covid, and Biden still didn’t clear it.

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you provide some evidence for this claim?

More people died from covid in the same period of time after Biden took office compared to Trump before. Biden lifted the mask requirement on transit. Biden ended the public health emergency. Biden allowed Medicaid to kick people off again, and SNAP and unemployment to reduce payments again. Biden ended free covid testing. Trump said “less tests = less covid”, Biden made it policy. Under Biden, it was decided that employers cannot be held liable for giving their employees covid. Under Biden, the government stopped tracking covid cases in the same way, leading to more spread and worse information.

Biden declared the pandemic is over, when it is not.

[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The Democratic Party just represents another faction of the bourgeoisie. They only “support” different social issues to opportunistically appeal to a different voting blocs, but they have little or no intention to truly do anything. The only constituency they serve are just a different group of capitalists. Once you understand this, that all bourgeois politicians don’t represent you at all, US politics and policy decision making becomes crystal clear.

based and bourgeois-democracy-is-not-democracy pilled

Death to America

Typing :Hindenburg: really ought to do something here

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doing an insanely small amount better than the other slave master is not a good thing. "They stabbed me five times, but the other guy would've stabbed me seven!".

Sure, please vote for five-times-stabber instead of ol' seven-timeser, but by gods neither are worth defending in any sense.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re right, Trump’s half-measures on covid were much better than Biden’s no-measures.

Edit: I think I missed a key word in your comment and thought you were genuinely saying voting for the lesser evil is good, my bad

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the problem. We don't have a liberal party and a conservative party anymore. We have a conservative party and a regressive party

[–] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

we have von hindenberg and the NSDAP

[–] nofunberg@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not keen on defending democrats, but there would absolutely be a federal abortion ban right now if Trump had been re-elected.

Our government is in extremely bad shape, one federal election isn’t going to fix it.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Roe v Wade was overturned under the Biden administration, idk if you missed that.

[–] Wheeze@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do understand that this happened because of the supreme court, and not because of Biden, right? And the supreme court was able to do this because of Trump. Could you explain what Biden should have done to protect abortion rights on a federal level?

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Surely! Here’s a small and incomplete list of things he could do, at varying levels of usefulness and ease:

An executive order legalizing abortion nationwide

Pack the Supreme Court

Move the Supreme Court justices to lower courts and replacing them

Simply ignore the Supreme Court, as several presidents have done in the past (Andrew Jackson being the most notable)

Get his fucking party in order and pass a law legalizing abortion back when he had the majority in both the house and senate

Open abortion clinics on federal land nationwide, claiming new land to do it on if there’s none available in a needed location

Threaten to drone strike Clarence Thomas

Withhold highway funds from states that ban abortion

An executive order declaring banning abortion a felony, and then arresting every politician who implemented a ban

Call for a general strike until abortion rights are re-established

Personally sanction governors of states that ban abortion, freeze their bank accounts, seize their companies, all the shit we do to foreign leaders we don’t like

Call for people in states that ban abortion to burn down their state capitols cool-zone

Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America, the most powerful empire the world has ever seen. He’s not a powerless smol bean. If he actually wants something to happen, there’s a long list of ways to go about it. If something does or doesn’t happen under his watch, that is his responsibility.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always been saying that if it were two Republicans that had held up every Trump legislative priority, Trump would have been bullying them every day until they acquiesced, but Biden allowed Manchin and Sinema to do exactly that and acted all powerless.

Isn't it odd how the Presidency is only weak when it comes to Democrats passing their own platforms?

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh my god, can you imagine if it was Ted Cruz and Mitt Romney holding things up? Trump would’ve had them killed if McConnell didn’t do it first. But the republicans don’t have that problem because they actually keep their members on the party line where it matters

[–] huf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

so do democrats. what you're seeing is not them failing to keep their party in line. this is their line.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah because we should totally trust that the guy who spent 99% of his career opposing reproduction rights just couldn't do anything to stop the supreme court from overturning Roe

Yeah, seems like Biden just let it happen because even if his position changed publicly for the 2020 election, what he believes behind closed doors never changed

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the impression no one in the senior dems actually cared about abortion. Pelosi saying it wasn't important, multiple failures to pass legislation. The unforgivable acceptance of fash scotus' lies when they said they weren't going to overthrow roe. They've never done anything to protect abortion on the national level, and the simplest explanation is they don't give a shit.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, 100-com%

I still remember hillary-contempt picking an anti choice VP in 2016

[–] Hemi03@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Its less cruel to vote Blue, so you shuld still do it. Its whats called harm reduction.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

That's right, we harm-reduced the hell out of Roe v Wade freedom-and-democracy

[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you help me win over some voters on the fence? I tried explaining to my coworkers that Biden cutting their food stamps by more than half was harm reduction and good for the soul of the nation, but they just won't donate $50 to the Beto O'Rouke alderman campaign

[–] Hemi03@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he cant agree that people like Ron deSantis are Fashists, im sorry i wish i knew how to help. If he can recognise Fashists why would he not want to vote against that?

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Biden is also a fascist

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm specifically pissed because they haven't reduced harm

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus $20k for my student loans

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which, to the best of my knowledge, he can still cancel with a signature.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes but then the loan companies would be upset! And we all know democracy is when businesses have more say in politics than the people

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Covid is over! One of my friends can't taste half their food, but covid is over! Just like Roe.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Declared the pandemic over. Removed most, if not all economic and healthcare protections for affected by the pandemic.

Still have immigrant concentration camps, just rebranded.

Billions wasted on trying to create a forever war for Russia.

Half hearted attempt to reduce college debt.

No attempts to protect abortion or LGBTQ+ rights.

Paltry environmental protection policies. Awful response to climate disasters that have gotten worse due to climate change.

I could keep going, but you get the point.

[–] RustyVenture@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm going to keep going lol

Meddled in the rail unions' contract negotiations, then he and his party broke their strike after his corporate-friendly PEB's agreement was rejected by the unions. And no, the crumbs that were thrown at the rank-and-file after the fact does not make up for it, no matter how many flowery press releases from union leadership get pushed out there.

Opposes universal healthcare, doesn't even want a public option (but sure as hell campaigned like he did!). Likely not going to hear a peep about healthcare in the lead up to 2024, and this is with an ongoing pandemic that's already taken the lives of over two million people and disabled tens of millions more.

Wants more cops and more funding for cops after sucking all of the oxygen out of the Black Lives Matter movement and neutering all of their demands. Favors more surveillance and more privacy invasion.

Doubled down on Trump's immigration policies, sanctions on Cuba, and saber rattling over China, blew up Nordstream, bombed Syria (really, Biden's entire foreign policy has been and is astoundingly inhumane and terrifying, even for a US ghoul).

Continued to retain or has re-hired plenty of Trump (and Obama…and Bush) appointees who have demonstrably awful track records.

Weak-to-no leadership even within his own caucus that has resulted in failures to raise wages, build infrastructure, strengthen regulatory powers, or combat an openly corrupt Supreme Court (plus, he's rewarded the so-called obstructionists: Manchin and his family get pipelines and favors and special perks, Sinema gets to sit at the BBB negotiating table); that ended up doubling childhood poverty after spending a year touting its reduction by only half for some reason; that led to countless unnecessary deaths from nixing all sorts of programs and protections from a pandemic he pretends doesn't exist even harder and even more callously than his predecessor.

Above all, is simply Reagan in a blue tie, who is to the right of Reagan on several issues, more senile, and ultimately serves the entrenched power of capital and bourgeois interests that are destroying the planet. On its face, that should be enough for a leftist to hate his guts, but I also think he's a racist piece of shit, a sex pest, anti-labor, a serial liar, and an all-around slimeball and shitheel, and I base this on his entire miserable life as a politician, which has seemingly been memory-holed ever since Super Tuesday.

None of the above is "harm reduction," and the diminishing returns of using the specter of a Republican doing worse only reinforces my belief that the Democrats are aware that there isn't any effective distance between the parties other than aesthetics and won't do a thing to change that perception, seeing as we get Republican policies regardless of who's in office.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vaccine was supposed to end the pandemic, but when not enough people got it to hit 80% immunity or whatever, liberal governments around the world were just like "uh, we pretend anyways?"

Also, I do think that marriage rights have been federally protected in legislation after ROE was struck down and they eyed going after gay and interracial marriage.

Still, I'd of course like to see him using federal land in red states to provide abortion access.

That said, I do also think things would be worse right now if Trump had remained president.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a sterilizing vaccine. It slightly reduces the chance of infection but it mostly just reduces the chance of hospitalization and death. The current vaccines cannot stop the spread of the virus.

The actual language of the "marriage protections" just lets the states do whatever they want. It's not real protection.