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While Canada claims to be a climate leader, the oil and gas we export to other countries have the potential to produce more emissions in a year than every sector in Canada combined, an independent analysis reveals.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does that mean that a country that imports 100% of the oil it burns should be counted as having no emissions?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, but It's still a bad thing to sell something that's got a negative global effect. This measures that effect.

We sell a very large amount.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any time you say nuclear power most people think of Homer Simpson and Fukushima. Canada could be cranking out reactors and fuel for local and international use but it's 'too dangerous.'

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, but since Canada can regulate/limit the oil and gas it exports, this is still a useful number.

Imports also need to be counted.

Unfortunately climate change is every country's responsibility to fix, since every bit helps.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I disagree - its double counted. Once in Canada, once when actually used.

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's only double counted in a situation where you're actually counting both sides. This is a Canadian study published by a Canadian outlet about the impacts of Canadian policy.

They're not trying to balance the books, so to speak, they're evaluating transactions on a single account.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yes, but if you are considering Canada carbon you can't include both everything they sell and everything they import. The earth is a closed system.

If you want to assess Canadas impact you can't include impacts other countries have- thats their impact and your making Canada response for them. You could, and should, include net exports of fuel.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree, it is double counted.

However, when it comes to emissions, the buyer and seller should bear half (or something close to that) of the responsibility each. Take the number and divide it in half if you wish, but the producer shifting responsibility to the buyer is not a fair share of the blame, and figures like this help give a sense of how much this is being done.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I have no objection to that when considering country responsibilities - just don't then count it again when the individual buys it.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago