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[–] Blackout@kbin.run 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You know that scene in mad Max fury road where women are pumped for their breast milk? Turns out we've been doing the same thing to cows for a while.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

thank u cows for the milk 😋

[–] technojamin@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

And now we’re doing it to the almonds smh

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Love seeing more vegan memes and content.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

What is with all the anti-meat industry posts popping up recently? It's starting to feel like an astroturf campaign...

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most likely more people being aware of it, and then people seeing those posts doing well leads to more posts like that

Arguably, you should be moreso concerned about the opposite. The industry runs well known astroturfing campaigns:

NCBA [National Cattlemen’s Beef Association] calls it “proactive reputation management”: a strategy that entails monitoring the internet for messaging opportunities, then leaping in to burnish beef’s image whenever it’s advantageous

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/03/beef-industry-public-relations-messaging-machine

The meat industry has helped fund research and communications initiatives to minimize its links to climate change. And it has organized astroturf attacks on initiatives like EAT-Lancet

https://newrepublic.com/article/177575/never-trust-green-meat

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are literally the one posting these. It's all you appear to post about.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

There are plenty of other people posting about the meat industry. I've seen people making the same comments on places. It's also in part because many people are just seeing the vegan circle jerk community posts on the all feed. That also shapes perception too

One example of someone complaining about just that on someone else's post (comment ended up getting removed by a mod because of other parts of their comment, but you can infer based on replies) https://lemmy.ml/post/16139346/11287396

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 months ago

Don't give up on posting. I like those posts.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (22 children)

Yes. Mostly one topic posters.

Vegans posting about the meat industry are the like non-gamers posting about the evils of the gaming industry with a dash of moral superiority.

It's weird for someone to center their entire online personality around something they do not do.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The example honestly doesn't make much sense to me. You take issue with someone daring to want to talk about the worker abuses in the gaming industry? Are we to forbid someone from being passionate about an issue?

Someone caring about the harm in an industry doesn't make them think they are "morally superior". Posting about the harms in an industry is to raise awareness of that harm. It's not about one self at all

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Hot take: It's good when non-gamers talk about abuses in the gaming industry

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

I don't commit genocide in ukraine and I very much don't support it. Why would that be different for animals that are treated even worse?

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

?????????????

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[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 33 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Astroturfing implies that a corporation or government agency with large amounts of funding are paying individuals or bots to spread misinformation for their employer's financial or strategic benefit.

You might not know this, but there isn't a "Big Vegan" industry with deep pockets to financially support astroturfing. Agrobusinesses that grow vegetation make more money off the meat industry than they would if they centered their produce around vegetarian or vegan diets. Businesses that do cater to vegans barely manage to scrape by and have no margins to support social media manipulation; they barely even have budget for conventional marketing.

What you're actually witnessing is legitimate grassroots efforts to inform people about the harm that the meat industry causes. You see "astroturfing" doesn't mean "a lot of people are saying things I don't like". It actually means "grassroots campaign but fake", hence the name "astroturf", which is a fake kind of grass.

[–] Nimrod@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but there isn't a "Big Vegan" industry with deep pockets to financially support astroturfing.

Well then who keeps sending me all this free tofu with envelopes of cash taped to it whenever I upvote a pro-vegan meme?

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[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Today I learned people sharing their opinions is "astroturfing"

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

The fediverse is just hugely left-wing and with a lot of far-flung left wing posters to boot. It’s not an astroturf campaign just a place a lot of outsiders gather.

I don’t know who would pay for this, there isn’t really any moneyed interest that would gain from turning public opinion against meat

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trolls that primarily are active on vegan communities learning they could troll here without the mods telling them to pack it up.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

For most of the decade I was on Reddit, vegan support was always met with vitriolic opposition unless it was on a vegan-friendly sub. But the last year or so I was on that platform I remember being really surprised to see a trend towards anti-vegan sentiment becoming the unpopular opinion. I was surprised again once I joined Lemmy to see that anti-vegan culture seems to be the popular opinion here, though I'm noticing there is also a stronger pro-vegan culture than there had been for most of my time on Reddit.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

you post 2 memes like this per day and then wonder why people hate vegans

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to be vegan to agree that animal farming of the 21st century is cruel and we could do better than that

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

But it's easier to whinge like a reactionary at the people demanding an end to the systematic breeding into existence of animals for the sole purpose of exploiting and killing when ending that unfathomably cruel system gives me the ickies 😭

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

“”Why are there so many extra quotes?””

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago
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