Fuck that, it's all about the 1 part week. The 1 part where we work from home.
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Definitely need a second part where you don't work.
Indeed.
Found a Yahoo version without paywall:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/real-estate-billionaire-said-fridays-201315351.html
I kinda liked coming in at the end of the week now instead of middle of the week...less people in the office leads to less distractions and less traffic too, but school is starting soon so well see how bad that screws up the commute...
And ideally this is how it should work to maximize usefulness of the space...oh, everyone else is gone on Fridays, I'll come in Friday instead of Tuesday
Still coming in 3 days a week except now everyone is happier
Except the justification for forcing people back to offiices is to socialize and collaborate in-person. It defeats the purpose if you're showing up when everyone else isn't around (assuming management justifications are genuine).
If management actually value face-to-face collaboration, then they'll mandate all team members be in the office on the same set of days. Allowing you to pick your own WFH days speaks to different priorities - either manager oversight of specific individuals, or justification for all the money being spent on rent.
imo (and I'm not a manager, though I occasionally do manage people) there's different levels of collaboration. If you get the whole company in one room, that's one level of energy. If you get 5 separate but related teams in a room, that's another level. And if you get just 5 random people from the company together, that's another level.
There's definitely a balance to be had, but having your office be empty every Friday is not efficient, even if you want to increase socializaion and collaboration.
Plus there's some benefit to providing workers a place that isn't their house to work. Some people just need to go somewhere else to be at their most productive, not necessarily just for socializing.
Correct - there is no ‘one size fits all’ solution for this. Ideally, you would be on a team where your manager is well aware of what works for each individual, and make decisions based on that but also taking into consideration that there will need to be compromises where individual preferences are in conflict. Some folks may certainly work better in isolation. Others thrive from interaction with others. The more reasonable arguments for WFH practices stress flexibility when accounting for team dynamics.
Yah we usually try to have everyone come in on Wendesdays for our weekly meeting and after that its a free for all. Ironically wednesdays are my least productive as half the day is devoted to meetings and the other half is catching up with the people i havent seen in a week and our extended lunch break...
Same for me too! Every part but going in to the office. No people to distract me at home. Less traffic without a commute. Oh and this is not just Fridays, it's every day I don't go in to the office.
I don’t even show up for work on Friday, I have better things to do
Nobody has noticed yet
every day is a half day if you just fucking leave
Most people could probably find a day or two of where they aren't asked anything by anyone and could just leave without consequence.
And if anyone asks, tell them you had a meeting. Nobody really cares.
First up as an appetizer its land-lords who own office parks.
Fuck offices. If a teams meeting or email will suffice then why push for face to face ? If you want better collab with workers then use different methods.
Most folk aren't as happy when you steal 2 hours out of their day.
Reducing those on the roads helps everyone. Less pollution for all and less full roads. Push to utilize cafes and other areas near workers to help out local businesses and stop propping up conglomerates.
They don't help humanity and actively work against us.
When it comes to the four day work week, the smart folks pick Wednesday.
I did that in the 90's. My boss and our director f'ing hated it. I missed the most awful meetings, missed the worst day of commute, got to miss the occasional lunches. It was bliss. That was before Boeing started letting us work from home a decade later.
Someone in the comment said it was paywallws:
A real estate billionaire said Fridays are ‘dead forever’ for offices and remote work guru Nick Bloom says he’s right—it’s part of a new 3-part week
BYPaolo Confino and Jane Thier
August 11, 2023 at 1:13 PM PDT
New data shows Friday is the day when most people work from home, according to think tank WFH Research.
Masafumi Nakanishi
In June, Steven Roth, the billionaire chairman of Vornado, one of New York City’s biggest commercial landlords, said that as far as in-office work is concerned, Fridays are “dead forever.” He added that Mondays weren’t far behind (“touch and go,” as he phrased it).
Now, Nick Bloom, Stanford economics professor and head of WFH Research—a group that has been digging into remote work data since before the pandemic—has officially deemed Roth correct.
“Friday has become the day to #wfh,” Bloom tweeted on Friday, adding that it “looks like [Steven Roth] was right.” But as always with Bloom and his vaunted remote work research, there is more to the story.
Despite the fact that offices have been completely desolate on Fridays for over three years now, Bloom told Fortune that he was nonetheless surprised that Roth’s prediction has ended up bearing out. “I thought this would be more stable, but I guess…Friday [is] increasingly winning out in the WFH stakes,” Bloom told Fortune by email on Friday. “I think it’s part of the bigger push towards coordinated hybrid, whereby we have firms pushing for folks to come in on the same days.”
In-person socializing and collaboration, as always, is the main appeal for office work. As a result, Bloom said, it makes sense to coordinate with one’s coworkers, among whom the consensus has been made clear: “That includes coordinating to be home on Friday.” Indeed, coordinating in-office days among teams is the best way to pull off “organized hybrid,” the term Bloom uses to describe the gold standard working arrangement.
The new Friday calculus shows Bloom that there is now a “three-part week,” he tweeted. Mondays through Thursday are one thing, the weekend, when offices are closed, is another—and then there’s Friday. Back-to-work mandates rarely include Friday
While it’s certainly unlikely that cubicles will ever be populated on Saturdays and Sundays, Fridays may still have a fighting chance—especially given how many major corporations have finally put their foot down about returning to the office. For years, many high-profile companies have faced fierce resistance from employees they’ve ordered back to work.
Amazon instituted a three-day minimum for in-person work back in February. The policy faced its latest snafu earlier this week when some employees got a disciplinary email even though they’d been complying with the new rules. Google also has a policy of a mandatory three days in the office, and will reportedly only consider full-time remote work in exceptional circumstances.
Meanwhile, Salesforce upped the ante even further, with an obligatory four days in-person for some teams. Based on Bloom’s research one might suspect the lone work-from-home day for Salesforce employees might naturally be Friday.
Bloom also has data to back up that employers and employees don’t see eye to eye on the number of days they’re meant to be in the office. On average, there’s about half a workday’s difference between the number of days workers would like to be in the office compared with what their bosses expect—or require, WFH Research has found.
Per a recent report from real estate consulting firm JLL, bosses have mandated a return (at least some days per week) for 1.5 million workers, and another million are set to be given the same threat in the back half of this year.
Even though more and more companies are beginning to formalize exactly when employees are allowed to work from home, the practice remains widespread. An estimated 58% of workers—a figure that when extrapolated to the entire U.S. workforce would be equal to 92 million people—can work remotely some days of the week, per June research from McKinsey. Naturally, the fact that at least one of those days will be Friday is all but a given.
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I go in 5 days a week because my Internet is slow. My office has maybe 30% of the office in with different people different days. Friday is maybe 10% or less and I find myself walking onto dark floors.
Dude! Buy better internet!
When you live in the country it's all slow.
:( I am sorry. I honestly am. :(
Thankfully I'm moving soon. Definitely not going to miss that drive or slow internet speed.
I'll just keep working from home EVERY day, and not getting a bunch of covid, colds, and flus from being jammed into small office spaces with a bunch of other people at once, thanks.