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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 41 points 5 months ago

Y'all Brits will be majorly fucked if this gets through. Hang on to your NHS with everything you can. Healthcare in the US is a nightmare. We are scared to go to the doctor so we don't go bankrupt. Some people choose death over medical bills.

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Streeting is the sort of person you wouldn't have in your cabinet unless he represented your genuine beliefs and you need an outrider. He's the Jacob Reese Mogg of Starmer's Labour party.

[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

He's also a great canary to blame/sack when it all goes wrong. He's an ambitious little scrote though so he'd be a nightmare on the back benches.

[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Here in the US I once went to the optometrist to get a new glasses prescription. While there I mentioned I was getting some new floaters in my eye and a little weird brightness. They took a look and found a tear in my retina, which can threaten your vision if you don't get it taken care of quickly. My insurance company utterly refused to allow me to just schedule an appointment with the opthalmologist. First, I had to wait two weeks to see my general practitioner, then schedule an opthalmologist appointment after. It was three weeks before I saw a doctor who could fix the tear in my retina. Luckily it did not detach, but it absolutely could have.

Our piece of shit health insurance system just about half-blinded me for profit. Do not implement our monstrous system. It boggles my mind that British people would ever even think about it.

[–] pre@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago

@Anamnesis@lemmy.world The British People don't want it at all, but we are ruled by fuckheads who can only get their seat by accepting bribes from private health companies.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does the US only spend double per capita than we do? I thought cost was an order of magnitude worse in their private healthcare.

[–] cook_pass_babtridge 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We've been spending much more per capita in the NHS in recent years than we used to. Part of that is the aging population and Covid, but a big part is probably the increase in privatisation. Paying agency workers to fill up chronic staffing shortages etc

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

Surely this will revitalise the economy, once the health sector has been fully privatised... because you'll be paying 10x more.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

laughs nervously in American

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

no kidding. streeting is literally being paid by the healthcare and insurance industry to do that.

it's why i don't want starmer's labour to lose; i want them to be crushed and fail hard.

[–] david 1 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, because another five years of the Conservative Party is just what the country needs. Spoken like a true leftist.

[–] Patch 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm no fan of Wes Streeting, but the Canary is trash and is doing its usual of selectively quoting.

We will go further than New Labour ever did. I want the NHS to form partnerships with the private sector that goes beyond just hospitals. Here’s one example. High street opticians have the staff and equipment to provide basic tests. Meanwhile 220,000 patients have been waiting more than 18 weeks for eye care. Specsavers have welcomed Labour’s plan to use high street opticians to cut waiting lists, saying they stand ready to help.

Personally I'm not enormously bothered about high street opticians taking NHS appointments (within their competency). This is essentially the same model that GPs and dentists already follow (and always have done).

There's plenty to be guarded about, but let's not catastrophise based on half-quoted electioneering material.

[–] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"form[ing] partnerships with the private sector" is literal privatisation.

and the Canary is one of the (the only?) worker owned news outlets in the UK, sometimes it's a bit sloppy but calling it "trash" is doing free PR work for plutocrats

[–] david 2 points 5 months ago

Alongside squawkbox, it's one of the popular media outlets designed to appeal to left wing folks that regularly work to oppose the Labour Party (who they call "red tories") winning.

I had a leftist explain to me earlier that it would be better for Boris to win because Labour was too right wing and it would put people off voting for a properly leftist party if the centrists got into power again.