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The polls have shown Donald Trump with an edge for eight straight months, but there’s a sign his advantage might not be quite as stable as it looks: His lead is built on gains among voters who aren’t paying close attention to politics, who don’t follow traditional news and who don’t regularly vote.

Disengaged voters on the periphery of the electorate are driving the polling results — and the story line — about the election.

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[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The poll results also depend upon answers from people who are willing to answer an unknown number. What percentage of Gen Z does that?

I'm technically a boomer, and I don't do that.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Interjecting to add my two pennies. Gen z isn't as consequential here as millennials, (not that they answer unknown numbers.) Young people simply don't vote.

Edit: For the record I'm a xennial and don't answer those calls either.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 months ago

They don't vote as much as older people, but they're not an irrelevant population. 51% of eligible 18-24 year old voters voted in 2020. That's 13.7M votes or 8% of the total. And they vote heavily Democratic. 51% for 18-24 vs a 71% turnout for 45-64 is disappointing, sure, but not remotely irrelevant. We have endless think pieces about Latino/Latinx voters deciding elections, and they were only 16.5M votes. No one would ever say "ignore them, they're irrelevant".

Youth voting rose 8 percentage points between 2016 and 2020, and look how things changed. No demographic group is small enough to ignore, because elections are decided in the margins of a few critical states.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

With inflation your opinion is now 24¢, please insert one quarter.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Do people get these calls, give all these opinions, and then say "No, I didn't vote," and not have an ounce of thought? With this graph, I''m glad they don't tho keep that shit up.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

That’s pretty much trumpism in a nutshell isn't it?

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

His lead is built on gains among voters who aren’t paying close attention to politics, who don’t follow traditional news and who don’t regularly vote.

So… trolls. His lead is built on gains from internet trolls.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

Biden wins just three-quarters of Democratic-leaning voters who didn’t vote in the last cycle, even as almost all high-turnout Democratic-leaners continue to support him.

This trend illustrates the disconnect between Trump’s lead in the polls and Democratic victories in lower-turnout special elections. And it helps explain Trump’s gains among young and nonwhite voters, who tend to be among the least engaged.

Ok, so Trump is cornering the loudest people who shout their opinions at pollsters but don't vote: basically morons. Makes sense to me.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 16 points 5 months ago

Lets be real with phone calls and polling. The only ones answering phones, and then taking the time to answer questions is going to be the boomers (and the wanna be boomers). If tRump isn't killing it in the phone polls, he's in deep shit when it comes to real numbers.

The propaganda campaign isn't working as good this time around or it's because of the 91 felonies he's facing and the fact he struggles to complete a coherent sentence. Most of my family had their red hat dunce caps last time around and this time, all but one is voting for Biden because even though they hate him (when asked they can't give a factual reason why) he's the better choice for America. It's refreshing to know not everyone on the right wants to vote in a vindictive dictator.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Importantly, these low-turnout voters are often from Democratic constituencies. Many back Democratic candidates for U.S. Senate. But in our polling, Biden wins just three-quarters of Democratic-leaning voters who didn’t vote in the last cycle, even as almost all high-turnout Democratic-leaners continue to support him.

This trend illustrates the disconnect between Trump’s lead in the polls and Democratic victories in lower-turnout special elections. And it helps explain Trump’s gains among young and nonwhite voters, who tend to be among the least engaged.

[–] mister_monster@monero.town 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People who don't regularly vote are the people that won him the election in 2016. I know these state media propaganda rags like to pretend that engagement with them is the deciding factor, but fact is, a lot of Trump supporters had their mind made up 4 years ago and don't need to follow the noise to know what they're going to do.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

This graph is comparing against action 4 years ago. Anyone who had their mind made up then is a 2020 voter.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

The polls have shown Donald Trump with an edge for eight straight months

Hm... did something unpopular start about eight months ago?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Biden’s campaign released an ad aimed at Black voters that featured Trump’s past remarks defending white supremacists.

Democrats are investigating Trump’s meeting with oil and gas executives in which he asked for $1 billion in campaign donations and pledged to reverse Biden’s climate policies.

Ohio’s governor, a Republican, called a special legislative session to fix a procedural issue that could prevent Biden’s name from appearing on the November ballot there.

Louisiana’s legislature passed a bill that would designate abortion pills as dangerous controlled substances and make possessing them without a prescription a crime punishable with jail time.

“Drowning Street”; “Things can only get wetter”: The British press mocked Prime Minister Rishi Sunak for making a surprise election announcement in a downpour.

Cassie Ventura said she was grateful for the support she received after CNN published surveillance video showing her being physically assaulted by Sean Combs, known as Diddy.


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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one single poll is a tell all. But Biden is losing consistently over time in multiple polls in every battleground state by significant margins.

It’s not looking good. It’s important to question methodologies and definitely okay to critique polls, but the trend is not looking good at all.

I honestly don’t think the only candidate who can beat Trump is actually going to beat Trump.

I live in a solid blue state. I’m not voting for Biden or Trump.

But keeping your head in the sand saying lalalala none of the bad news polls are accurate is not really going to work.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one else running in the election in November? Or you’re just not the voting type?

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

I vote every year.