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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 116 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Samsung just needs to shut the fuck up. They're worse than Apple by a fucking mile. They make fun of them for something then turn around and do it next month. Fuck off with this shit. They removed the headphone jack, the charger from the box and the SD card slot. Samsung sucks more than Apple.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Samsung never met a bad idea they couldn't help but imitate.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Literally!!!!!

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (7 children)

And you can't unlock their boot loaders. You must suffer their changes to Android, their assistant, their UI, their spyware, and bloatware. You don't own the device.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm writing this from a samsung with unlocked bootloader.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Same here. Pretty easy to unlock it.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that Samsung is shipping two wildly different software packages to americans and europeans because none of what you stated is a problem on my end (aside maybe spyware)

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and up to not long ago, also completely different hardware (exynos vs snapdragon). US samsung devices usually cannot be bootloader unlocked. Rest of the world usually can. No idea why.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe like apple, it promised to give your data to the US government and you can probably bypass that if you unlock your bootloader. It is one thing to bend to goverment pressure but it is a whole another level of fucked up shit to take away any means of escaping from it looks at apple and samsung

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Lol where did you get that from? You can absolutely unlock the bootloader of every Samsung Android phone.

Edit: detail

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 6 months ago

IIRC Samsung doesn't allow OEM unlock on snapdragon devices sold in US.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Not in the US

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

Neither on Apple devices though? There aren't many exploits to "jailbreak" Android phones.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Oh man, don't get me started on that.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You can root/jailbreak both apple and samsung, but that would massively downgrade the phone security and make it vulurnable to hackers. So that must be avoided if you have bank apps, creditcards, or important and sensitive data on phone (who doesn't)

You can't unlock the bootloader on specifically USA Samsung devices, for reference.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Apple copy Samsung too, Apple just has good marketing and gives random names to standard tech to make it sound like its something amazing you should care about.

Samsung wanted to sell wireless buds too, so they also removed the 3.5mm port. At least their SD card slot stuck around for a bit longer. They could release a true flagship if they wanted with a 3.5mm port and an SD card slot, but why would they when millions of people buy their phones each year anyway?

Both are shitty in their own ways, but at least Samsung is Android.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Both are shitty in their own ways, but at least Samsung is Android.

not sure that's enough any more

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But it means you can buy alternative brands for similar experience. You are not locked into Samsung like you are to Apple.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Samsung is like the apple of the android world, which makes it way worse

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Agree. Creating mediocrity is bad, purposefully following mediocrity is worse.

[–] kaboom36@ani.social 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Is removing the charger from the box such a bad thing? I've already got a box full of them in addition to the ones scattered around the house and with how many electronic devices we use I doubt that is a uncommon position to be in

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That was a good change. I'd argue even removing the cable would be a good change. Less e-waste (even though releasing phones every year is e-waste enough).
The bad thing was Apple then selling a charger at extortionate prices, you didnt have to buy theirs though.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Xiaome did remove the charger from some of their phones, but they offered it as a free addition on their website for those who need it. For fucking free. I would have been ok with it if Apple or Samsung did that.

[–] Drusenija@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Apple's issue was they timed it around a shift to USB-C chargers. Their argument was everyone already had plenty of chargers, but no one had the new ones (well, some people did obviously but they hadn't gotten it with a previous iPhone). That's why they cop so much flak over it.

I agree that conceptually it's a good change, they just picked a bastard of a time to do it (one could argue that was deliberate of course).

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago

It is a bad thing as it happened just at a transitional period in chargers. If it was just another USB A connector, then it wouldn't have been an issue. But we are now in the transition of USB C chargers and most people don't have a "box of them".

Newer devices are advertising that they have ever faster charging options, but these need the newer USB C connectors to reach these advertised speeds, which as I mentioned, most people don't already have. So you are stuck buying another thing to use what they were advertised as having.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 6 months ago

The problem is, these new phones often have new speed charging protocols that only work best with their own charger, basically forcing you to pay more to get the charger if you want to utilize speed charging unless you already have a new-ish charger from that manufacturer.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 months ago

Samsung doesn't use child labor in China to make their phones. Why again are they worse?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 81 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And then 6 months from now Samsung will release their own ad showing items getting crushed. Both these companies suck.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 22 points 6 months ago

Samsung will add extra AI so their next ad will be employees being crushed into single device.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Samsung think they're so clever with these ads that mock Apple, but all they ever do is copy every bad decision Apple makes.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember when they made fun of the charger being removed?

Me neither.

[–] No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Headphone jack. I do remember when you could charge the phone and listen to music with wires. Wired headphones don't need batteries.

[–] spizzat2@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

You can still get a USB-C dongle that supports charging and audio at the same time. It sucks that they make you do it, but I'm glad it's still an option.

[–] Dumpdog@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Unless they build something that isn't locked down and obsolete shit after 5 years, it is just as fucking useless as a 5 year old iPad.

[–] Roldyclark@literature.cafe 20 points 6 months ago

Sheet music is 1/8 note scales and she plays some open chords and hums? Lol

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I thought the Apple commercial was really clever. Squeezing all of the stuff into one device. I don’t really understand why people decided that it was about the death of creativity, there’s plenty of creative shit you can do on a tablet. And it’s not like the existence of the iPad precludes using instruments and paint.

Shit, 98% of what my wife does on her iPad is piano and vocal sheet music related.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean there's a large sentiment that goes back to antiquity that technology is here to crush the working/creative man. I think people felt it was too on the nose that a tech company worth trillions was making a commercial that reminds them of that so directly. especially in today's day and age where people feel like certain industries are on the cusp of being completely wiped out by LLMs and stuff.

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[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was just copied frame by frame from LG 16 years before.

https://youtu.be/NcUAQ2i5Tfo

The death of creativity is very apt considering they had no creativity making it, they just stole it and remade it.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In fairness to Apple, if you play the video backwards, it’s an amazing commercial. Maybe it was like all those classic rock records where parents thought you could play it backwards to learn about Satan or whatever.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

"To be fair, if they did the exact opposite of what they did it's amazing."

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Well, I don't care about any company but seeing Samsung take the shot is always refreshing. I wish more companies would be at odds to call bullshit out publicly like that.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Samsung heard that Apple managed to upset a lot of people with the “Crush” ad revealed last week that smushed instruments, arcade games, and sculptures into a shiny new OLED-screened iPad Pro, and apparently just had to get into the conversation.

On one side, responses included creatives like Hugh Grant and anyone who spotted a slightly-too-on-the-nose representation of Big Tech’s steamroller approach to art, copyright, and the past, powered by the might of generative AI tools.

In response, the Samsung Mobile account on X posted this video with the hashtag “UnCrush,” which Ad Age reports was created by BBH USA and directed by Zen Pace.

No matter which side you’re on when it comes to the great iPad ad political divide, it’s a little fun to see Samsung trying to find a weak point in Apple’s armor again.

Samsung’s marketing department used to practically specialize in this stuff, which the company’s lawyers’ argued “drove Apple crazy,” but it seemed to run out of gas after deleting ads about iPhones dropping the in-box charging adapter.

More recent attempts, like a browser-based Galaxy test drive for iPhone owners, just haven’t had the same punch as mocking that distinctive notch.


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