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[–] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I am not surprised, they (ruling party) bank on polarizing people, attacking journalists and populism/prorussian reathorics.

I just listened to their press conference and they just pour gasoline on this situation. Like I nearly vomited hearing the accusations of journalists, opposition parties...

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Basically… fuck this guy in his new blowhole.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But Fico is from that party, no? Attacking journalists and what not isn't good, but neither is shooting a politician. Especially if you're supposedly on the side that wants to protect democracy.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago

I don'tbthink anynody is saying this is right. I too wanted to get rid of him, but not like this.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Sic semper tyrannis

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know almost everything about Slovak politics, but I want to think that as a democracy that it is, this man had the support of, at least, a very important part of its population, which is why I consider that any attack against him is an attack on the entire people of Slovakia and its political system. I hope this is the work of a madman and not an organized network of terrorists. On the other hand and on a human level, I hope that this man recovers completely and can resume the functions that the Slovak people consider for him.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even if he did not have support of a big part of the population, the point of democracy is to be able to get rid of them without violence.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which hinges, of course, on a free press. Not that it excuses the actions at all, but the democratic argument is sadly not entirely as straightforward as it should be in this case.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, which is why as democracy-loving citizens (which honestly everyone should be), people should strongly protest anything that damages it - in a democratic way, as long as that's possible. And I don't think Slovakia has regressed so badly yet that there are no democratic avenues of resistance anymore.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 4 points 5 months ago

It has absolutely not, and it goes without saying (but is nevertheless worth repeating) that this is completely unacceptable. As long as you're free to demonstrate without risking your safety and the outcomes of elections matter, leaders should be chosen at the ballot.

It's an interesting question how bad the state of democracy needs to be before one is justified to stop playing by the rules. There is a breaking point somewhere, and politicians killing off scrutinizing journalists are clearly moving towards it in a dangerous way. But it is nevertheless clear that Slovakia remained far away from the breaking point of anything like this becoming necessary.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I’m wondering if this isn’t a Reichstag-fire false-flag attack to justify a crackdown on pro-western dissent and secure Fico’s (hitherto precarious) grip on power.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 18 points 5 months ago

Be careful reaching for the explanation that best matches your preconceived notions though. There are plenty of normal enemies too, and unfortunately, just one of them needs to be crazy enough to do this.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

From the reports he got shot in the stomach. That's not where you would want to get shot in case of a false flag, and probably wouldn't put yourself directly in the line of fire like that either.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I feel like a false-flag wouldn't have shot the PM so convincingly that he'd be "fighting for his life". Like, a "missed me" assassination attempt would be near as effective without the near death.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

In the end it doesn't matter in this regard. Effect will be the same, oposition and media are already blamed for this by the ruling parties.