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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 142 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Okay but it’s illegal for him to distribute counterfeit money knowingly isn’t it

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 106 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, this guy is committing a serious federal offense and could very easily be put in prison if the authorities decided to prosecute him. Whether that would actually happen depends on how connected he is to powerful people, of course, but there is zero ambiguity about the legality here.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. It is really infuriating that that’s how it works. Makes me wish I had the free time and drive to become a vigilante.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's the thing, isn't it? If someone shot this dude it would just feed into his narrative even more and give people like him more power. Only way to actually make a difference is to get organized with enough people to carry out coherent actions (which would definitely be a lot less violent, at least initially, than shooting ghouls like this guy).

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Counter-point - more bullets for more people like him punished-bernie

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

inshallah-script

That's what you need organization for, so that when things get real (which is almost always provoked by the bourgeois side of things) you have more people ready to keep the thing going. Spontaneous and individualistic movements fade out just as easily as they come into existence.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

you can do both

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Vanguards of Liberation - Martyr John Brown Group

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

its not counterfeit its movie prop money, 20% larger or smaller than real money

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 70 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure this is still illegal, he's attempting to put the money into circulation by giving people the false impression that it is real legal tender.

Like hypothetically if you're so charismatic that you manage to convince a bank teller that a piece of printer paper you wrote "Gay Sex" on with a crayon is actual legal tender I still think that counts as counterfeiting, because you're still putting false currency into circulation.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

Selling all my holdings in Iraqi dinars to reinvest in gay sex bux

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the problem is its a rich guy allegedly doing this to homeless people

The least likely to be treated fairly under the law of this country scenario I can think of other than if it was 1820 and he was doing this to actual slaves

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh I doubt he'd ever see the inside of a jail cell over this.

However, if enough people reported him for this it maybe enough for the Dept. of the Treasury to send him a notice or something which would probably scare him into not doing it anymore.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

It's a giant novelty check actually

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay. But surely if it’s illegal for you to attempt to use it as legal tender it must be illegal to give it to people under that pretence, no?

[–] D61@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I bet I bet I bet....

Because its just being given to another person but no given to a cashier to pay for something, its "not illegal"

The internet says... I'm wrong... hooray!

https://abovethelaw.com/2024/05/admit-counterfeit-bills-homeless/

But if we take him at his word, he is at the very least in breach of 18 U.S. Code § 472:

Whoever, with intent to defraud, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or with like intent brings into the United States or keeps in possession or conceals any falsely made, forged, counterfeited, or altered obligation or other security of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Of note, the unsuspecting homeless people he’d ensnare in this scheme would lack the requisite intent to defraud, meaning the only participant in the hypothetical transaction actually committing any crime is McEntee himself.

That said, while a homeless person duped by a stunt like this would not commit a federal crime if they tried to pass a bill they believed to be genuine, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t be arrested for the attempt. Or worse, given that George Floyd was stopped for attempting to spend a counterfeit bill when he the police killed him.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

that doesn’t mean they couldn’t be arrested for the attempt. Or worse, given that George Floyd was stopped for attempting to spend a counterfeit bill when he the police killed him.

precisely

demonic country

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the American legal system is remotely sane (which is a big if) then the important question is the intent. If you use the prop money as a prop it is not a crime but if you pass it on, deceiving people to think it is real money then you've crossed the line.

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

The thing about the American legal system is that it runs on Whose Line Is It Anyway? rules: everything's made up and the laws don't matter. What happened doesn't matter as long as the audience likes you. And the audience is rich people.

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[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 90 points 6 months ago

There was a thread asking about atomization of society and one symptom is shit like this, this comical evil can really only occur in an atomized society with such distance from others as human beings.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 75 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I hope his doctors give him fake medicine.

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[–] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe someone should distribute a piece of metal into his body at high speed.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

I wish him a very happy you-died-2

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So Johnny McEntee just confessed to committing a felony?

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

It's only illegal if the right people care.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

wonder if soon we'll be able to hack these freaks "smart" cars and have them drive into rivers and shit, ghouls love bazinga toys

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

alphabet agencies already did this to kill Michael Hastings

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not like openly confirmed, but he died in a solo traffic accident where his car rapidly accelerated into a tree.

The surface story is that he was doing meth or something, but 2013 is around the time that they started being able to digitally control accelerators through wireless connections, so it's not impossible that he was just one of the first they tested it on.

His reporting was highly critical of the Alphabet agencies and the surveillance state. Even got a general to step down after his reporting, so he was definitely not liked by the apparatus.

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

i looked it up because i was curious and the first article was a Politico article smearing the Huffington Post for even suggesting it (despite Politico not having any counter evidence) so I'm immediately convinced its real 👁️

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Angela Chao can too, by buying and using her own tesla

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago
[–] Moss@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Somebody fuckin kill this man

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

I hope someone kneels on his neck for 9 minutes

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

What shit culture do we have where malignant narcissism is seen as a badge of honor and not a sign of someone being a complete monster?

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

Holy shit somebody kill this guy.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

I hope he gets jumped by the hooligans from A Clockwork Orange and they crack his head open like a big stupid egg

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago
[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Need that Egyptian fella from recent events to come to America

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

but surely homeless people only use money to buy illegal drugs right?

This would only work if they tried to use it for something like, I dunno, food, medicine, or shelter!

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

People that should be executed without trial.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is this the “Right Stuff” guy?

Hope he gets hit by a fucking bus.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] VHS@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

There's a shitty MAGA dating site by the same name

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Fairly certain intent is important for counterfeit currency and the secret service would arrest this guy pretty quickly if this were actually true,

If you aren’t actually aware it is counterfeit you probably get interviewed and let go but they would find this guy in like 12 seconds especially if he is taking photos and bragging about it

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

(manifesting)

John McEntee has information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton

Death to America

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