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It seems every month I am discovering a new food allergy attacking my gut biome. I am getting nervous that my next step is going to be to axe the gluten.

I am already lactose-intolerant. Most acidic things as well (i.e. tomatoes, pineapple, onion family including garlic). The latest is animal fat, no more lamb, oxtail, ribs, or ribeye steaks.

I'm fairly diverse and I'd call myself an accomplished home cook. I typically eat pretty well rounded I would say. No breakfast, or maybe a swig of kefir. Sandwiches for lunch everyday. Not big on sweets. No soda, lots of water. Dinner of meat and rice, with a side of sauteed veg is a typical easy night. I'll make my own pasta, stews and soups are fairly regular too. Try to eat one vegetarian dinner a week.

Is there any hope to have anything good left if I was forced to cut out gluten as well? Or am i doomed to blandness?

Does anyone have any foody websites they visit with such dietary restrictions? It seems i can't find anything quite niche enough that doesn't go full vegan (I understand I have to substitute some things myself in any recipes. But when 80%< is substituted I don't think that counts as following the recipe)

Or is there any cuisine in particular that seems to be easier to make gluten free?

Just looking for help in general here, any advice.

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[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I’m gonna be Debbie Downer here, but please I beg you to hear me out.

I had nearly the exact same food sensitivities you describe. I struggled with them for nearly a decade. My doctor gave me all the information they could on creative ways to deal with it.

Finally, I had a colonoscopy and endoscopy.

Stage 4 colon cancer. Not cool. My oncologist estimated from the spread that the cancer probably started 10 years ago. What an amazing coincidence….

Please, please, please get an endoscopy and colonoscopy. Not the little poop-on-a-stick test, an actual colonoscopy and endoscopy. Digestive system cancers are exploding in younger people that “shouldn’t” be getting them. The fastest growing population is young women (who are often told it’s just IBS) but young men are getting these cancers at an alarming rate as well.

[–] Star_FOX_dew_HOUND@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's been over a year dealing with it being bad and getting worse typically. A lot of other random problems that I've just associated with long rona. I can go and get checked out for relatively cheap i'm fairly certain. Key words checked out, after that who knows though. It's freaking me out kind of but it's a good idea I know. Thanks for freaking me out! Lol for real though, thank you.

[–] YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be honest, most gluten-containing items that I can think of are quite bland and are used to "carry" less bland foods- pasta on its own is bland, the flavour is in the sauce.

During my gluten-free years I just found other "carriers" for my flavourful items. Rice is a great example. Potatoes are another. Oatmeal bread is another. I haven't tried gluten-free pasta in 15 years, but I understand it's improved greatly since I needed it.

For inspiration, I'd look up recipes for those with Coelaic disease (spelled Celiac by Americans). Another common search term is "GF". Gluten free lifestyles are so popular these days, the Internet is flooded with ideas and recipes.

[–] Star_FOX_dew_HOUND@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay i feel really dumb now... rice and potatoes are gluten free?! Idk i just thought rice was rather wheat like, and potatoes are so starchy. That makes me less opposed to making the switch need be.

[–] YourHeroes4Ghosts@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Gluten is a protein found in many grains, especially wheat. It is not in rice or potatoes.

[–] nathanjell@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A truly gluten free diet (not just wheat free, but gluten free, and without cross-contamination) can be really challenging and I'll be the first to admit that it can really stink sometimes to have very, very few options. That said, it's actually typically really easy to do yourself.

Today there are some decent gf breads available, and some good pre-made flour blends if you want to bake your own. Or, you can get your own constituent flours and powders and make your own flour blend. Pastas are similar - I prefer corn pastas as I find those that are primarily rice tend to be too flimsy to hold up both boiling and adding any sort of sauce. Though do be warned of a couple things. Gf pasta really sucks up sauce, so don't be afraid of adding extra sauce (mostly if you're expecting leftovers, by morning the sauce will be gone). Leftover gf pasta rarely holds up and can often be nothing but pieces by the next day - corn pastas are much more robust, and some pastas are decent at avoiding this.

Meats, veg, fruit, raw ingredients are very typically fine. Just be careful of cross contamination. If it's more than just plain butchered meat, for example a pre-marinated meat, either make sure the ingredients are fine (and accept risk of cross-contamination from prep) or don't get it - these often don't have ingredients listed.

Many cuisines are super easy to do gluten free. Indian is a great example - curries very rarely have flour added as a thickener, for example. But honestly, I typically make normal, glutenous recipes just with gf ingredients. Something like bread is the biggest no-no, needing special prep, but I rarely find things that need special provisions.

GF doesn't need to be bland - it's just a different prep style, usually.

[–] Star_FOX_dew_HOUND@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the tip on pasta. This is a big deal for me because i just recently got into it, and I'd like to continue making my own. With my health in decline making pasta is kind of good workout sadly enough. I haven't made any other types, but can imagine a corn pasta being tasty enough. I'm a big fan of Asian cuisine, so maybe rice noodles could be another direction too. (Though to be honest i didn't realize until posting this that rice is gluten free)

[–] nathanjell@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely! Rice noodles (not pasta made from rice flour, but rice noodles like vermicelli) are absolutely fantastic! Of course, when made with an appropriate recipe, like pad thai. There's so much variety with eastern Asian cuisines to be able to use rice noodles, and like I say curries and such are very often fantastic options too!

Other starches are also options, for example corn tortillas. Working masa into tortillas might be an option!

In particular, you'll need to avoid wheat, barley, rye, and triticale. Pat is typically grown near and processed alongside wheat, so most oat is out - and some find trouble even with oats marked gluten free (processed gluten free). I'm fine with oats marked GF.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi, I have celiac disease, so I can't eat gluten and have to take care that food hasn't been cross contaminated by gluten. I'm also severely lactose intolerant. I can't think of food web sites that I use regularly. I've got a few simple recipes, but it appears my tastes have always been rather ... less refined than yours, even before the celiac diagnosis. For instance, my favorite cookie recipe is 1 cup peanut butter, 1 cup sugar, and 1 egg, baked at 350 in the oven. Not healthy at all, but delicious. (Obviously they're for holidays and that sort of thing haha I totally don't just whip up a batch and eat them in front of my computer lmao nope I never do that haha)

I've not tried to make my own homemade pasta, but the packaged ones I've tried have been pretty good when I need to scratch that comfort food itch. Mostly though, I've switched to eating more whole foods. It doesn't sound like you'd need to change much at all, to be honest. If you're eating meat, rice, and sauteed vegetables, I don't see where the gluten is involved, unless you're using wheat flour as a thickener for the sauce, but corn starch actually works better for that, always has.

As for web sites for recipes, I don't have any that I use regularly. When I search "celiac recipes," I don't come up with full vegan content at all. I think you're searching "gluten free recipes," which will net you a lot of recipes for people who are switching voluntarily. "Celiac recipes" should net you more recipes that don't have 80% substituted and appeal to an audience that doesn't eat gluten because we have no other choice.

There are so many things you can't eat with celiac and lactose intolerance, but I've been surprised by how much I can eat.

I could have sworn there was a gluten free community I was subscribed to, and I was going to try to find it for you, but ... I don't know if I was dreaming or if the community got deleted.

Also, I'm not sure why I'm posting this from my lemmy.one account when I have a beehaw account, but such is the weirdness of the fediverse.

I have a couple discord buddies with whom I've got a shared google doc for gluten free recipes, so if you want them I can message them to you, but I think you'll find more just by searching "celiac recipes." Good luck!

[–] Star_FOX_dew_HOUND@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for your response. I have a friend with celiac but he doesn't cook much for himself, he sticks with pre packaged stuff. I always prefer fresh if possible. I feel like the main stick in my side is going to be trying to be gluten free while also lactose intolerant. I've adapted well to a fairly lactose free diet and just worry about even more being cut.

Good idea for searching for celiac friendly recipes, i was looking up "gluten free/lactose free" so I'm not exactly appalled i was getting vegan recipes. Doesn't seem like there's much left after taking those ingredients away! But that's negative, i can see you're right there are still plenty of things you can have. I'm gonna try to stay positive and take your advice.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

The part that's hardest for me to cope with isn't even that I can't find things to eat, because I absolutely can -- it's making other people understand why no, I can't order off the menu at some random sports bar, no not even the so-called "gluten free" items due to cross contamination. Eating is such a social thing for many people.

You might find the same. I don't think you'll have as much trouble adapting, especially if you're willing and able to cook on your own. Best wishes!

[–] catacomb@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My partner is vegetarian, avoids lactose because it doesn't completely agree and recently can't have gluten. It's certainly challenging but can work.

Baking with gluten free flour usually comes out a lot better than the pre-made products in the store, especially with a little xantham gum to add elasticity. Pre-made baked food is already not as good as fresh, so add in gluten free flour to that and you have a shell of what you really want.

So, pizza can still be decent; fake cheese is getting pretty good. You can bake bread, although the pre-baked loafs can be okay. Soy "milk" usually works better because oats are often contaminated. You'll also be surprised by how many chips add gluten, presumably for texture.

I'm not sure exactly what your reaction to acidity includes, but I still make good curries, stews, nacho plates and tacos with meat alternatives. It's not the real deal but it's more than edible.

[–] Star_FOX_dew_HOUND@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't thought about trying to make my own gluten free loaves, i am also an avid baker. Thanks for the tip, and i wouldn't ever have thought to buy xanthan gum to use for anything lol, but I've seen it.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Be aware that xantham gum is a laxative.

(Please see a GI specialist and get scoped.)

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

There is a supermarket where I live whose almost all products are gluten free. We don't buy them because they're gluten free, but because they're generally cheaper than other supermarkets, having gluten or not. I think that bread and other pastries are the only products that are not gluten free, but I don't care.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s a journey. You may find that a wide variety of neurological and muscle issues ease or vanish with a super strict GF diet. There’s also evidence that within 5 years of starting a true GF diet many with celiac find that other food intolerances wane or disappear.

I just bought a gluten free cookbook that comes highly recommended called ‘The Gluten Free Cook’ by Cristian Broglia, an Italian chef, who looked for naturally gluten free recipes from around the world. This seems to be the kind of thing that might be useful to you. (Haven’t really tried much in it myself yet.)

One cookbook that I find super reliable is ‘Healthy Gluten Free Eating’ by Davina Allen and Rosemary Kearney of the Ballymaloe Cooking School in Cork, Ireland. Ireland has the highest prevalence of celiac in the world and the Chef’s school there has been at the forefront of developing workable recipes.

Another cookbook that I rely on is ‘Gluten Free Flour Power’.

Last, ‘Baked to Perfection’ is a recent award winning GF baking book by a woman who was a PhD student in inorganic chemistry when she wrote it. She understands a great deal about making GF baking work and explains it in an understandable way.