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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Gamers: be like this every time. Raising hell works.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Steam giving out refunds works.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

They value the goodwill of their users; being a privately owned company they have the luxury of thinking that far ahead.

[–] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 6 months ago

It didn't help they hadn't thought it through either... the game was for sale in countries where you can't get PSN 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Didn't work with the kernel level anti cheat. Not enough hell was raised.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 7 points 6 months ago

Not enough folks refunded the game over it.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

But that was there at the launch right?

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And it only took 100,000 negative reviews

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It didn't even take them the whole weekend. Good.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's Monday in Japan, it took precisely the whole weekend.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 6 months ago

It's a bank holiday in Japan today. So it is supposed to be a three day weekend for what it's worth.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago

Fair enough I guess

[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 32 points 6 months ago

This isn't a win. A win would be gaining something. This is just getting back what they stole.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

The game should be offline co-op anyway (and P2P). So many co-op games just made 'always online' for the sake of MTX.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this game has a meta war that determines all available planets, mission types and rolls out content based on community involvement. It would be nice to have an offline mode, too, but this game is not completely decoupled from being online, unlike Hitman or something.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I present to you: Helldivers 1.

Its just an arbitrary mechanic added to justify an always online requirement. Helldivers had an offline option. There's still a game there without the need for "community involvement", the missions etc could be completely random or seeded for people who dont want to connect to a server.

Its always sad to see potential great games ruined by greed.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did the first one really have offline? I played the shit out of it, but I was always connected. Sure, they should implement something similar here, too, but it is genuine work they need to put in to get it there, I'm sure they had to invest that for the first game especially since it was on the Vita.

It isn't arbitrary, though, go on any of the communities that care about the meta war and you'll see people really do keep up with it and enjoy it, they work with each other to focus on the major orders and do a bit of roleplaying at the same time.

I know that you're very anti always online, and I understand and agree that it should be optional, but to say that nothing comes out of it would also be disingenuous.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You are right, it does provide something. I just personally don't value it over a more typical online co-op setup. I just wish options weren't scary and implemented more.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Me too. I know it's a bit of work to set up an alternate mode and method to get to different planets and missions, and I'm sure teams are run really tightly on what gets worked on or not due to paying for whole teams to work, but I do wish they did what they could to future proof it.

A lot of always online games are awesome, have artistic merit, and can be looked back upon later as gaming history, and if they don't preserve these "art pieces" then a huge chunk of gaming history will likely disappear into the ether in 10 or 20 years. It seems a little silly to me that we can go back and play Mario 64, or even Helldivers 1 and see what that was like, but Helldivers 2 will become an inaccessible splash screen, it's a waste of all of the time and work, and even the money that went into making this happen in the first place.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it would have the same staying power without the community involvement.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 6 months ago

That says more about the core gameplay than the community feature.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well this one comes with rootkit DRM and season passes, so it's no wonder it wants to be as online as possible.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

Cool story.

The anticheat came after the prolific hackers started

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Obviously you’ve never played the game with that L take.

[–] sverit@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] vale@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy was overall a very small part of it. It is a very small community compared to other social platforms. Even if every single Lemmy user owned Helldivers 2 AND left a review, it would still account for less than a quarter of the recent Steam reviews.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I bet you are fun at parties

[–] Avialle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Often facts beats tribalism. :p

[–] WoolyNelson@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Automaton propaganda is nothing against RAW DEMOCRACY!

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Democracy supports the genocide of Palestine.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're talking about the wrong Earth.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago

Are you living on some other earth? I am living in the one where China, Russia, India, USA, Israel and Palestine exist.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 6 months ago

When push back and player voice once in a lifetime matters.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fribbtastic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I mean, Helldivers 2 was overwhelmingly positive. 3 days later it was overwhelmingly negative. With almost 100k negative reviews on 5th May.