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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It just boggles my mind that there are people who think everyone should give complete control of their computer to Microsoft just because there are people cheating at games.

This will be my final Windows computer.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I assume you will be switching to Linux, if so, I can answer any questions you might have

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well i already switched and I'm wondering, how does root access works on Linux ? What i mean is there games that used shitty anti cheat that are running on proton have the same access to your PC or is limited by the proton prefix ? Thank you in advance for your input on the matter!

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tl;dr : yes they are limited in their access to the rest of your PC.. mostly

From what I understand, when such anticheats are configured for Linux, they're still running in the user space and is why some developers go as far to disable support for Linux entirely.

You, the privileged user, unless logged into the root user (not recommended), are part of the "sudoers" group, which allows you to execute commands on behalf of the root user using the "sudo" command which requires your password. Games should never need this to play.

This however doesn't mean the AC is sandboxed, its honestly beyond my knowledge exactly what it does have access to, but I can say it is far less than what Windows kernel AC has. And again why developers feeling the need for such intrusion simply pull away from linux

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Hmm i see thanks

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The anticheat can read all your files (in the home directory), and see all running processes. It can't change much about the system, however, if you give it root once, it can keep it.

[–] Dreyns@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's already too much imo

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

I agree, but its way less bad than what the windows anticheat can see, also, most every ptogram can do those things

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What a dystopian world we live on where my 32 thread CPU with 8 channels of 64GB RAM is "obsolete" for Windows 11, because it lacks a fucking TPM of all things.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Blessings in disguise.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

The TPM is a feature of the motherboard, not the CPU (generally).

You can even get separate TPM modules to plug into your MoBo, if I'm not mistaken.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

The bar should be a little higher than "we haven't bricked anyone's system (that we know of) (so far)"

[–] panned_cakes@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LOL "we didn't destroy their devices" what is going on in there gamers??

[–] nix@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

Yea this is a very worrisome denial.