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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2340051
Yeesh
One of the members who skipped (anonymized):
They tried defending themselves on Twitter, saying they "didn't feel comfortable" meeting the President. It's no wonder why. I think all of the members who skipped are Miami gusanos part of the Trot/SAlt caucuses
No need to anonymize them, we need to know their names, and who they are. We need to recognize our class traitors.
SAlt as in "Socialist Alternative"?
Yeah, they've always been wreckers and sectarians.
My Australian comrades hate a similar org called "Socialist Alternative" in, well, Australia; I think they have multiple branches, the most well-known being the one in America and, I think, the UK, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes that org. Their only success is Sawant's councilship in Seattle. Just another petty bourg "socialist" org.
big oof
It's disappointing to see them doing this shit because Sawant is actually really good by US standards and they should just stick to local politics if that is all they are good for and never ever be allowed to represent anything on the international level.
The original post isn't about Socialist Alternative though? Those caucuses belong to the DSA (Democratic Socialists of Amerikkka).
Oh great, 4th generation gusano still can't overcome the generational trauma of losing land and slaves
Fuck DSA, I hope they are never welcome in Cuba again.
DSA is the true FEDiverse
Yeah we tore them to pieces like twice lol this shit still makes me mad.
Same here.
Ops
Let's not fed-jacket.
No need when they put the jackets on by themselves, knowingly or not.
People who get rhetorically close but don't cross were never going to in the first place.
Even so, wantonly fed-jacketing can ruin a community and has been done by actual feds.
Hmm. You gotta expain this one to me. Calling out these bozos (it's your post tho?) will ruin which community?
In the past, feds would fed-jacket communists in order to divide the community and start witch-hunts against fellow comrades, turning comrades against comrades.
This happened especially during the 60s/70s.
And in other eras.
It's a common FBI tactic.
So no one can be called a Fed even if they do the most Fed-like things?
Not unless we know for sure.
...right. I understand the concept, but cheers. I fail to see how it applies here. To a post criticising a socialist group for being undercover libs, the oppest of ops lol. A post you submitted mind. Come on.
It's not right to wantonly call others feds if we don't have enough information. Come on now, comrade.
Op
There's a difference between fed jacketing DSA and fed jacketing named individuals. DSA is absolutely infiltrated.
Every org is infiltrated.
It doesn't really matter whether we do or not. These kinds of people are utterly useless and treacherous all the same.
There are many good comrades in DSA.
It matters because it shouldn't be normalized.
Full article is linked here
It seems Red Star is the only caucus in the DSA with decent revolutionary socialist politics, at least according to this overview.
Socialist Majority and Reform&Revolution are both Democrat aligned caucuses. Even worse, they are the two largest caucuses in the DSA.
This issue reflects the fundamentally treacherous nature of the USA white settler left as discussed by J Sakai in his book Settlers, which is mostly only interested in increasing its own share of the colonial spoils rather than actual international liberation.
Settlers is a bad book though. Read Hinterland.
why is settlers a bad book?
It was written in 1979 and contradicted by other books. It's only one book.
Read all the books.
It’s definitely worth reading, but you should also read more up to date books that aren’t totally blackpilled.