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Wind turbine energy claim is all spin and no power (www.aap.com.au)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Treevan@aussie.zone to c/environment@aussie.zone

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Social media posts are full of hot air in claiming wind turbines take years of operation to make up for the energy needed to manufacture them.

"The turbine has to spin continually for over 4 years just to replace the energy it took to manufacture it. Most turbine blades last 3 to 7 years," it states.

Prof Cleveland co-authored a meta-analysis on the net energy return of wind power systems which found the energy return of investment, the ratio of energy delivered to energy costs, placed wind favourably in comparison to other technologies such as fossil fuels and nuclear.

"The average life of wind turbine blades is 18 to 25 years, with 20 years as a widely used industry standard," Prof Cleveland told AAP FactCheck.

The claim wind turbines take at least four years to recoup the energy used to create them is false. It typically takes about six months for turbines to recoup the energy costs of making them.

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[–] Lintson@aussie.zone 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Social Media posts are full of hot air

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[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But my Mum says I'm cool.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not behind your back.

[–] Atlusb@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This summary misses the most fun part of the article. They said it takes an average of only 6 months to pay back its energy cost of production!

[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Ahh shit, I read the article and only skimmed the summary to make sure it made sense.

Do NOT believe the summary, people!

I'll edit it in. Thanks.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

18-20 years of free energy, nice !

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what about the thousands of bald eagles they kill?! Checkmate librul!

/s in case

[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wedge-tailed Eagles here, mate. Checkmate, greenie!

In our country, the people who tend to vote conservative also kill the eagles:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gippsland-jailed/10298426

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Conservatives should start a theater chain since they love projection so much.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original claim makes no sense either as it would make the turbine economically unfeasible even with support from the government.

I get the bird and noise argument (though both are highly contested too) but the rest is gibberish as wind clearly makes surplus energy thus the profits.

[–] IncognitoWolf@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I used to work on turbines, and I can attest the bird argument is very blown out of proportion. In my time working on turbines I never saw a single dead bird near the bases. We had a farm of Vestas V112-3.3mw turbines. Noise i can see, those blades whip through the air and cause almost the same sound as a distant jet as they whip by. Its not too loud unless winter then its very noticeable when the blades ice up. The hydraulics and such can be loud as well but its not terribly loud.

However the biggest thing I noticed was how not green they are when it comes to the lubricants. Its not uncommon to have the pitch cylinders leak, and fill the hub and spinner with oil. Lots of times the blade bearing grease would overfill the cups and throw grease in the spinner. Another thing is the hydraulic systems would leak and cause excessive oil spillage, which sometimes would make its way out into the world. We could only clean with rags and pig mats so its super oily and greasy everywhere. The cooling systems would also leak and usually spill many gallons of coolant out into the wind.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

A couple years ago I calculated that it took about 10 hours of operation to make up for the oil in the gear box. I should have published that.