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What is Defederation?

Defederation means we have disconnected our instance from another, and users from our instance will no longer be able to see anything (communities, posts or comments) coming from it, and their users won't be able to see anything coming from ours.


What will get an Instance Defederated?

Our goal is to avoid defederation, but we will do so under the following circumstances:

  • The instance spreads overwhelming amounts of drama, hate or negativity.

  • The instance is mostly made up bots, and or promotes spam.

  • The instance allows the harassment or doxxing of others.

  • The instance knowingly hosts CSAM or other illegal content.


Has FMHY Defederated Instances?

Only the following, all for breaking the 1st rule above:

  • exploding-heads

  • lemmygrad

  • Rammy


Things to Note:

  • There are circumstances where we may block a specific community within an instance, rather than blocking the entire instance itself, but this is very uncommon.

  • Remember that if there's a community you don't like, you can block it entirely in settings.

  • Keep in mind that our goal is to keep this community safe, so if you see something that breaks our rules please don't hesitate to report it.

  • If its something urgent, you can always contact us easily via Divolt ๐Ÿ’ฌ. Its connected to our discord, so there are mods online 24/7.

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[โ€“] nullishcat@lemmy.fmhy.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For anyone wondering what "Rammy" is and why it's on this list:

ScreenshotsScreenshot of their communities tab, including two specifically anti-trans. Screenshot of two posts spreading anti-trans hate. Screenshot of two posts, one anti-trans, another against climate change.

(Okay, I included the last post cause I thought it was funny, but it goes to show the type of people on there. If this isn't convincing, then go take a look at the instance yourself. Not linking it here but it's very easy to find.)

[โ€“] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Go figure the posts all seem to be made by Exploding Heads. That said I hadn't heard of the community until now so thanks for the info.

[โ€“] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why are they branching off instead of staying on one instance for one big community to talk amongst each other? Make some wonder if the intention is more to gain an audience and then make another instance if defederated and then another to spread their message instead of enjoying each other's company.

[โ€“] iorale@lemmy.fmhy.net 1 points 1 year ago

That would be like asking "why r/thedonald filled reddit with hate and misinformation instead of staying inside their sub?", it's because that's their aim, to be read by everyone and spread their cult, to yell harder than everyone else calling them out to silence them.
Think of them as an infection or a parasite.

I'm certainly not advocating for lemmygrad, and not even a user at FMHY, but somewhat surprised to see them on the list.

I mean they're relentless with propaganda and misinformation, and I've blocked them in my client, just wondering where they fit into rule 1.

Maybe drama I suppose.

If you were looking for feedback, I would replace "overwhelming amount" in rule one with "significant and unregulated".

I'd also replace "mostly" in rule 2 with the same.

It's always going to be subjective and discretionary, but I feel like the wording as it is allows for more scope for users of banned instances to feel targeted (and therefore persecuted), than is absolutely necessary.

I might also include a sentence like "the primary objective of this policy is to promote the best possible experience for users of FMHY, and therefore requires admins to exercise discretion to determine which instances consistently undermine that objective for the majority of our users."

... the implication being that someone personally may feel wronged by a particular decision to defederate whatever instance, but you're trying to get the best outcome for the most users.

Regardless, it's always good to publish a policy and promote some transparency. Good job.

[โ€“] rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net -5 points 1 year ago

I thought being a pirate meant not picking sides