United States said relations between Israel and the Palestinians are far from ripe. That all but quashes the Palestinian Authority's U.N. membership hopes for now.

The U.S. is one of five permanent members who can veto any council action. Members of its U.N. delegation reiterated Monday that the Palestinian Authority needs to exert control over all of the Palestinian territories and negotiate statehood with Israel before it wins statehood.

The Palestinian Authority administers parts of the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Its forces were driven from Gaza when Hamas seized power in 2007, and it has no power there.

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I guess the US is just gonna veto it again like it's been doing to every pro-Palestinian UN resolution.

As always, the primary barrier towards peace remains the US government.

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel is a US satellite. Of course they will veto it

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At this point, they should just add a Star of David to the 50 stars of the American flag

[–] yngmnwntr@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

Making Israel a state before Puerto Rico, Guam, DC, The Virgin Islands and other US Territories is exactly the kind of bullshit I can see happening in this timeline.

[–] nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"free yourself from your oppressor before we recognize your existence" is pretty goddamn fucked up.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 31 points 8 months ago

Yea, and why would Palestine have to "negotiate statehood with Israel before" getting statehood?

And what was the U.N. partition plan for Palestine in 1947, didn't it make a Jewish state and an Arab state? Does this mean Israel also doesn't have statehood? It's fucked up yea but it also makes no sense if you're not racist.

[–] Arelin@lemmy.zip 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The U.S. is one of five permanent members who can veto any council action. Members of its U.N. delegation reiterated Monday that the Palestinian Authority needs to exert control over all of the Palestinian territories and negotiate statehood with Israel before it wins statehood.

The fucking PA, which is under the israeli military's control nowadays and allows its settler colonialism.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago

PA, which is under the israeli military’s control nowadays and allows its settler colonialism

Violent resistance by armed organizations remains the only way for national liberation. Be it the Viet Cong driving out the US, Bangladesh's Mukti Bahini driving out US-backed Pakistan, or indeed Palestine's Hamas and PFLP driving out the US-backed settler colony.

Any other groups like the PA will simply be brought under control by the occupying force.

[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 8 months ago

Of course the US will only allow negotiations with a "Palestinian" org under israel's control

[–] Kjev@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The UN Security Council being dominated by Genocidal or Genocide-Assisting states really makes things look hopeful huh.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Perhaps. But the fact that is getting and catching attention is a step in the right direction. Most Americans could not find Palestine on a map months ago. They might still not but at least they have been made aware of it.

This is objectively a good thing.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I don't think that's the issue so much as the veto power being assholes would matter less if they couldn't stop anything they don't like

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago

I mean at least the public veto from the states will finally put a nail in the coffin of their "two state solution" bullshit