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[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Part of a strange, larger trend where things get worse as technology advances.

autocorrect, search engine results, google now -> assistant, voice recognition.

All of those seemed to be much better a few years back.

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Swipe on my gboard has definitely gone worse lately. Same for my YT recommendations. I never ever watch shorts, and 90% of my recommendations are 13sec clips.

[–] Zebov@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That's you assuming they show you what YOU want and not what THEY want you to see.

[–] wizenheimer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

My gboard has gotten way worse. I also have 2 languages turned on but I have multilingual suggestions turned off and it still tries to suggest words in the wrong language half the time

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You need to very consistently mark every short video as Not Interested and then avoid watching them like the plague. It worked for me but took about a week of doing it.

[–] Hikiru@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What’s even more annoying is they’re capable of recommending interesting long videos, they purposefully recommend shorter videos on mobile (like less than a minute), on pc they recommend more long videos and the TV app seems to have the most long videos

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Something gets good, but the team needs to justify continued pay so they keep developing what doesn't need development.

[–] Erk@cdda.social 5 points 1 year ago

My controversial opinion is that cell phone layout designs (not tech) peaked around 2010 and were killed by the iPhone. Don't @ me.

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1000%.

I’ve noticed across platforms, posts, texts, etc.

My guess is that there’s been a slow infiltration of “AI powered” autocorrect across the industry.

Other than that, I don’t really have a good answer to the broad, sweeping degradation of autocorrect.

But you’re definitely not the only one.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I suspect this is what's happening. They've gone from a prescriptive 'pre-programmed' autocorrect to a more AI based 'machine learning' one. Hopefully this means it'll eventually improve, although I don't know why it's taking so long.

(I could be wrong about all of this, of course.)

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is precisely what I’ve been thinking.

I feel like they gathered data, studied it, and wrote a prescriptive autocorrect that IMO was perfectly fine and was still pretty good at catching words I was most likely to use.

Then, all of a sudden, it turned into fucking scrabble and I find myself going, “WTF are you thinking autocorrect?”

Not sure when the change started but it’s officially shitty now.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

At least a couple years ago I'd say, and it affects voice to text recognition as well.

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[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

It could even be that as more and more of our lives gets funneled into these machines we're seeing less literacy and therefore more typos to make the algorithms second guess themselves. If 10 users for every 100 type fir instead of for and don't correct it the algo starts to see that as possible correct

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I texted to my husband " have a good day", and it corrected to " have a good avocado". Have a great avocado everyone!

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Have an idea of what I have a great day and I will be able to see you soon answering the phone if you have to be a good time to call you can see the attached file is scanned image in PDF format the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the

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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, I would appreciate the sentiment. Too often do I cut open the avocado and realize it's not a good one, and it ruins my lunch.

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[–] Lilnino@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes my Gboard swipe is definitely worse than before. It won't remember custom words anymore, sometimes decides to not recognize my swipe and just adds the first letter, and gives wrong suggestions more and more, even when I know my swipe pattern is correct.

Swipe was by far the best. Why did they discontinue development? To much competition?

[–] kite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Swipe was bought by Microsoft years ago, and who knows why they do what they do. The only update I've seen in recent memory for it was them adding Bing to the top row.

[–] bad_alloc@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

Along with search and many other things. Probably most of theur devs are optimizing user distraction and ad click rate, instead of... basic functionality 😐

[–] SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

Definitely been noticing that. I thought it was only me...

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For some reason, half the time I try to swipe "because" it comes out as "beefsteak". No idea why and it's really annoying but I can't remove beefsteak from my swiftkey dictionary because I love tomatoes.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Glad it's not just me thinking that.

[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now that you mention it, yes. I used to be able to just swipe without any problems, but now I only type letter-by-letter when I'm texting someone from work.

Why, you may ask? My phone has this odd tendency to try and insult my boss/coworkers when I swipe text. I don't insult people in other places, but my phone seems very eagar to literally call them things like "wimp", "loser", "hoe", etc. I don't want to get written up, so every letter is now typed individually. I've had way too many close calls lmao

[–] simple@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. In the past few years Gboard seems to prioritize more generic words rather than the ones I'm typing. Not sure why. I still miss the Swype keyboard.

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[–] IoSapsai@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not sure about that but in my native language the words for "if" and "poop" are spelled the same, so every time I type "ако" I get the 💩 as a suggestion.

It probably doesn't contribute much to the discussion but I felt compelled to share.

Edit: also "правя" which translates as making/doing (i.e making dinner, doing everything possible" automatically suggests "sex" and "blowjobs" despite me never sexting...

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[–] Philote@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every damn time I type “for”, it auto corrects to “fir”. I’m about to blow a gasket.

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[–] airbussy@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On a similar note.. I haven't been able to find an open source keyboard for Android that has swiping. Anyone know of one maybe?

[–] dillydogg@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use the fork of OpenBoard that has swiping which is pretty good. https://github.com/erkserkserks/openboard

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[–] degen@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FlorisBoard has swipe support, but it's still a new feature and doesn't work all that well. It also doesn't have the suggestion bar yet iirc.

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[–] kite@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

YES. It's so frustrating now. And Gboard suddenly keeps trying to turn every word I type that starts with a "p" into "poo apper". Wtf.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been noticing it for years. Back when I first started using Swype and then Swiftkey you could vaguely swipe the word somewhere close on the keyboard and it would be correct, then I had to keep resetting the predictions every few months when they got bad. Eventually that stopped working and would make weird suggestions even when super careful. I switched to GBoard which was a bit better but the predictions seem to be getting worse there as well.

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I just want my phone to stop changing its to fucking it's. Goddammit, stop fucking changing a valid word to something else.

I disabled autocomplete on my iphone a long time ago because it kept replacing valid words with their opposites

Example will to won’t or love to hate. Seriously.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes, Swiftkey became total garbage so I went for something completely different with https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key and like it so far. Takes some time getting used to but it's a neat way for input.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Huh, it's the same author as lemmy.

[–] Corr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Interesting... I just installed this, will update later. I just switched back to using qwerty on my phone so l coud type on other peoples phones but I definitely see the appeal of using this

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[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, I'm using AnySoftKeyboard and have had no problems.

However, it wouldn't surprise me if other keyboards are implementing AI autocorrection... causing you guys issues.

Yes, it was unusable on my work tablet this week. Just making up weird ass words that make no sense. Division kept becoming driven like 20 times

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

ladies and gentlemen, behold the new ai revolution!

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It was better when I turned it off :)

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I'm still using swype, so I haven't seen a lot of it since I only use gboard when I have no other choice. But, yeah, they're using humans to train their ai. By humans, I mean the people using the keyboard.

[–] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Actually, yes. I uninstalled Gboard and went back to Samsung's keyboard but it doesn't help much

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For iPhone I always feel like autocorrect was better 5-10 years ago but maybe just a selective memory (the past is rosy). Seems like in my memory you could just type without looking at the keyboard and it would all be fine. Sometimes nowadays it tries ti correct based on context or grammar but sometimes it makes no sense and you have to force it to say what you mean. I clearly typed fucking, hitting the wayyy right side of the f away from the d as possible but how many times will apple correct to ducking…several. Several times.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I had thought it was because I got a new phone or because I reset the dictionary... but not having an option to stop the damned thing from correcting NUMBER INPUTS is absolutely infuriating. When typing in various lengths of lumber needed, I do not need a 60 to suddenly become a 50 without me noticing.

Aside from that, sweaty leg typing has made an absolute mess of my dictionary and there's no function to edit "added words". So I'm not sure if the auto correct has gotten worse on its own, or if it's just a symptom of user error on my part.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I wish there was a phone keyboard with the backspace key is higher up. Ive been using touchscreen keyboards for over 15 years and still cannot convince my thumbs thats theres no bezel at the bottom.

I wish i could customize a keyboard for how my thumbs want to type. Itd look weird, but qwerty is weird in todays age anyway.

Even if the numbers could be on the bottom row below the spacebar, that would be a game changer.

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[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] LeylaLove@lemmy.fmhy.net 17 points 1 year ago

I use swipe typing, so yes.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Android keyboard changed a few years ago - it used to leave your word alone when you pressed space; now it will change your word to whatever the "AI" thinks.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cant stand that shit and fix my typos the old way.

[–] Micromot@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

I just hate that it automatically changes a word to something it thinks I wanted to type instead of just suggesting a spelling

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