How "imperfect" does a party have to be before that becomes a waste of time though? My local org disagreed with me on every important issue last time I spoke to them, and joining them would do nothing but have me get into pointless arguments with "Weekend Communists"

I'm not saying I'm holding out for a "perfect" party here, but I feel like the line should be drawn with this: "Can I do more good work within this organisation than I can outside of it?" Having access to a properly organised group, even an imperfect one, enables an individual to do a lot more good in the world than if they were acting alone, but spending time in a party that does nothing of value will only waste your own time.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

spending time in a party that does nothing of value will only waste your own time

Of course. I assumed we were talking about a real party that does real work, not some do-nothing larp and debate group. The question that was originally asked was whether it's worth joining a communist party in the US, and my impression is that there are at least one or two out there that are not completely useless.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago

Yeah, just wanted to throw that out there that joining an org, any org, isn't always a good use of time. Though for a charismatic or knowledgeable enough individual, they could probably turn a LARPing group around into a decent org. Unfortunately I am not that person.