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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 115 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Ever seen that episode of The Office where Jim gradually fills Dwight's phone handle with nickels, and then removes them all? Then Dwight hits himself in the face when he picks up the phone?

These people would be shooting over the top of anyone's heads. They're not hitting anything.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And how good is your marksmanship with the weights in the way,?

Don't these guns kick up anyway? Wouldn't you need to hold them down?

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well that's kinda my point. Even before you fire, if you weight the barrel like that then when you take it off you will naturally want to aim higher than necessary. By the time you add recoil, you aren't even close anymore.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

One would assume this is just temporary resistance training so they can build muscles to keep the rifle in position, not marksmanship practice.

Right? Right??!?!

Or a joke photo being taken seriously.

But that would never happen to NCD.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole point of NCD is to take every post seriously. Its funnier that way.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, this isn't a community of genuine defense experts?

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, yes it is. The best of the best of the best, sir!

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Something funny slick?

This guy, has no idea why he's here "the best of the best of the best!", "sir!"

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Captain America over here

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

As long as this is treated as physical training and not actual marksman training I can see this being very useful. I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, just fill two buckets with water and stand holding them with your arms straight out if you want the same training results.

I used to really like the Silent Hill Arcade shooter. It was a fun themed spinoff. That and Time Crisis 3.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Why have them carry a gun or ruck at all, just have them hit the gym. It's not the same. Train like you fight (and a little bit more).

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

gymnastics – inverted iron cross

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007641151?pid=889663

The Pole Cat Tall Bipod shooting system is a great shooting platform for kneeling or standing situations.

I imagine that arms getting tired might be part of the cost computation for all-you-can-shoot deals, though, so I dunno how well people tromping in the door with those would go over with arcade management.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In this case the payment system stopped working and things were free. They eventually caught on. Their solution for the last hour and half was kick everyone out and you could come back in, all you could play, for whatever dollars.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

Hah! Fair enough.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While the weights here are impractical, wouldn't a weighted barrel work really well? If you're forced to engage your muscles against the weight of the barrel you'll most likely be extremely stable.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Heavy guns in general recoil less just due to the mass of the weapon.

There’s a pretty big downside though, in that you are now carrying a much heavier weapon with you at all times.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but not weights like these ones. It would probably make recoil more controllable at the cost of making aiming much more difficult. Usually you want to have lightweight parts to make aiming easier, and using your muscles and body to absorb and counteract the recoil.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

at the cost of making aiming much more difficult.

I don't see how this would make aiming more difficult, besides the weights blocking front sight

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

making barrel heavier puts center of mass of gun forward

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

You missed the joke but that's okay. Try aiming without sights

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

This is stormtrooper level training

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 months ago

Sort of, I'm thinking this is extreme dry fire training to "untrain" the natural reaction to push down on the weapon to counteract recoil.

A common way of doing this with automatic pistols is to place a coin on the end of the slide close to the front sight. With the pistol unloaded, squeeze the trigger till click without dropping the coin.

What it looks like they're doing here would be more punishing than dropping a coin when they instinctively push down.

[–] cor@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

i would bet that the weighted guns don’t fire