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That document is extremely full of bad, misleading, and outright false information. I shouldn't be surprised for a self described "anti-vegan copypasta"
The comments about soybean oil being the only main driver of the industry are just false. When we look at the most common extraction method for soybean oil (using hexane solvents), soybean meal (used for animal feed) is still the driver of demand
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0926669017305010
The comments about the mental health show the cherrypicked natures of sources here. Earlier in the document it bashes correlational studies and those that have even so much as a weak potential to be funded by any one related. But now that it's convenient, it then relies on a beef industry funded study (listed that way right in the paper) that looks at only correlational studies. It also fails to consider the cause being the other way around. That some may be depressed because they see a world of cruelty that they oppose
The comment about slave labor ignores heavy amounts of slave labor used in the fishing industry, nor the prison slave labor in the meat industry. Nor the meatpacking industries unusually high injury rate and multiple human rights watch reports
https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/09/04/when-were-dead-and-buried-our-bones-will-keep-hurting/workers-rights-under-threat
The claim that all vegans argue for it from negative utilitarianism is just very, very untrue. Many many vegans are not even utilitarian at all, some very strongly against utilitarianism
And looking at the overall sources in that document:
I can keep going for a while
I'm exhausted just reading all of this. I wouldn't bother because x4740N isn't interested in learning anything, he's convinced he's right and I'd be shocked if he was even reading any of the stuff you posted. The user took personal offense to the article and subject, which means he probably knows you're right, and is just acting out. Don't give him the time of day.