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Additionally, what changes are necessary for you to be able to use Linux full time?

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[โ€“] somedaysoon@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The amount of comments in here that are conjecture or just straight up bullshit is off the charts... my tech illiterate wife, and my 80+ year old grandparents use Linux without any problems.

[โ€“] xavier666@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

i understand, and as a Linux fanatic of 8 years now, let's not be too judgemental of the ex-Linux crowd ๐Ÿ˜„

[โ€“] bastion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Meh. Most of the top comments are pretty reasonable.

[โ€“] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Different needs, different hardware, different skill levels. My kindergarten kids used it for 2 years for school, no problem. I still don't use it because its too rough for my advanced needs.

[โ€“] somedaysoon@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux runs circles around Windows in terms of privacy, security, control, customizaton, and DE workflows and efficiencies... so what advanced needs keep you from using it? I'm genuinely curious because Linux is far more advanced than Windows in basically every single way I can think of... I can't think of any reason I would prefer to use Windows over Linux. The only problem Linux suffers is from software support, so if you are in an industry with software that doesn't support it... well then, yeah, you have to use Windows. Or if you want to play a game with anticheat... and you are okay with installing what is essentially a rootkit on your computer, then yeah, Windows.

[โ€“] somedaysoon@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, Windows is way too limited for anyone with advanced needs. Every time I boot into Windows it feels like I'm wearing 10lb sandbags on my legs and wading through 3 feet of shit... whereas in Linux I can make my computer sing without my hands ever leaving the keyboard, but that's because Linux is more customizable and offers more control over it.

[โ€“] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm feeling your defensive feelings for linux lol. I am pro linux. I love open source, private, non-corporate, stable, software. The community has been fairly supportive in my experience. I use it daily on my pi-hole, and HTPC.

My "advanced needs" comment was in comparison to your "tech illiterate wife" and "80+ year old grandparents" comment. I felt your comment was condescending, as if to say it's so easy to use, anyone could do it. Well as I commented earlier, that may be true based on your needs. My kids used it but their experiences were limited to the browser and zoom.

I've attempted several times over the years to switch to it as a daily driver, but never stick, because my "advanced needs" are essentially any computing interest i may have, whether gaming, programming, running local AI, or just setting up my OS the way i like it. You could argue linux can do each of those, but in my personal experience, Windows does it easily and smoothly every single time. The effort of getting Linux to run the way I want, and smoothly, is not worth the benefits to me.

That being said, i am PRO Linux. It's just not for me, right now as a daily driver. I really really really want that to change in the future. Hell i'm dual booting right now, i just never select it anymore.

[โ€“] somedaysoon@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aside from gaming, everything else you mentioned is objectively easier on Linux. Programming is easier because a lot of tooling is already there or just a few clicks in the package manager away. All the local AIs I know run in Linux, and most in docker containers, which objectively works better in Linux by far. And customization? Lmfao... it's not even close buddy, there is far more customization available in every single major Linux DE than there is in Windows. That's why I feel so weighted down by Windows, it has dogshit workflows, and you can't customize them.

For you to say otherwise is just complete fucking ignorance. And that's not an insult that is a matter of fact, it's objectively easier to do all those things in Linux. The problem is that you have been institutionalized by Windows... and until you accept that, you will never be able to transition. You need to forgot about how you would do things in Windows, and learn the way things are done in Linux. You can't also expect to just understand right away either, how many years of experience do you have fucking your brain over with Windows? Yeah, that's a lot of bullshit to unlearn.