okmatewanker

I appreciate that youre asking about what you've heard but I think you've been mislead.

I mean, its not like labour are brilliant or what they used to be but anyone who's claiming they're the same or not better is either deliberately lying or willfully ignorant. I think people built up labour too much in their heads and are still bitter about their reality check. "Behind every militant atheist is someone who beleived too hard."

You would have to go out of your way to do as badly and be as corrupt as the tories. The claim they're the same is a thought terminating cliché that doesn't hold up to any scrutiny which is why people who claim it, never want to drill down into the detail.

You'd think the apparent leftists who claim that and the right wing tories who also claim it would get their information and attack lines from different sources.

However, apparently not.