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  • Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, does not believe in cryptocurrencies, calling them a vehicle for scams and a Ponzi scheme.
  • Torvalds was once rumored to be Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto, but he clarified it was a joke and denied owning a Bitcoin fortune.
  • Torvalds also dismissed the idea of technological singularity as a bedtime story for children, saying continuous exponential growth does not make sense.
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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's relatively easy to make good money in crypto if you understand investing. There are a lot of things that are illegal in regulated securities markets that are not yet illegal with crypto.

I intentionally don't invest in crypto, because it doesn't produce anything. Any money you make is just taken from another investor, usually because they don't know what they're doing. When you invest in a company, you make products and sell them to customers. Something is created and rarely are people cheated.

The people investing in crypto are intentionally cheating uninformed investors in a way that is not possible in regulated securities markets.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

When you invest in a company, you make products and sell them to customers.

You mean, executives with "fiduciary responsibility" take extremely irresponsible actions to "maximize shareholder profits" and gut the company that produces those products such that the product is minimally viable, borderline shit, and might even kill the end user (Boeing, Tesla, GE, etc etc). Oh and jobs and the economy are on the line too, so that's great.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All of that is way more productive than crypto because something actually gets produced. Crypto is literally only gambling and scams, plus it's bad for the Earth. And I have nothing against gambling, it's the fact that vulnerable people lose tons of money thinking it's an investment.

Plus actual gambling is way more fun.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You're not making the gambling more productive, you're making the production worse.

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 3 points 6 months ago

That's why you need to think about the company you're going to invest in.

Your critique is accurate for too many companies, yes. But by far not for all.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town -4 points 6 months ago

See, the real crypto people are not in it for the number go up. They are in it for the technology and the human freedom that it can bring. So we don't like those people either.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

intentionally don't invest in crypto, because it doesn't produce anything. Any money you make is just taken from another investor, usually because they don't know what they're doing. When you invest in a company, you make products and sell them to customers. Something is created and rarely are people cheated.

Isn't that the same as investing in any currency?

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No one is investing in regular currencies. You’re supposed to use it to buy stuff.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, people absolutely do invest in currency. It's quite a big thing actually.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0412/the-basics-of-currency-trading.aspx

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 8 points 6 months ago

Forex traders are shocked.