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[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, because government pensions have been replaced with essentially a 401k. You would force them to invest only in real estate or individual businesses, which would be much easier to hide bribes.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh Justice Alito has quite the retirement ahead of him, guaranteed salary for life https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/371

Real estate as an investment should be outlawed, and operating a business as a government official is already dissuaded, and should also be outlawed. They make enough money.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's a recipe for more bribes, not less. Investments need to be disclosed. Gifts are subject to less scrutiny, as we've seen.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This just isnt reality. In America, government officials can and do invest tons of money while in office, compared to officials in other countries. And also in America, government officials take tons of money from bribes, compared to officials in other countries. The way it actually works is government officials take all the money they can get away with. They take their big salary, they take their investment income, and even then they are not dissuaded in the slightest from taking bribes, its still more money for them. The limiting factor is what they can get away with. So you crack down on what they can legally acquire, you scrutinize their income and spending, you prosecute violations. Their salaries are plenty to live comfortably already.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

in America, government officials take tons of money from bribes, compared to officials in other countries

I assume you have sources for that. List them.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

its kind of hard to look up, because looking up lobbying expenses by country tends to pull up how much other countries are bribing US officials https://www.opensecrets.org/fara

I think it's a pretty uniquely American thing.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean since we're speculating on rules, they could easily expand an existing pension program

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

That's not going to happen because they don't have the experience to manage a pension fund. It doesn't manage itself, so they'll have to pay someone to manage it.

Do you want Goldman Sachs to get their hands on a pension fund for the US Government? Does that sound like a good idea?