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This page lists Wikipedia pages by the total amount of text in all of their talk page archives put together. It is the best measure there is for determining how much squabbling has gone on behind the scenes for a given page.

Here is a ranking of all 63 of the listed pages that are actual articles (as opposed to policy/administrative/user pages), in descending order:

  1. Donald Trump
  2. Intelligent design
  3. Climate change
  4. Barack Obama
  5. United States
  6. Jesus
  7. Race and intelligence
  8. Catholic Church
  9. Circumcision
  10. Homeopathy
  11. Muhammad
  12. Gamergate (harassment campaign)
  13. Chiropractic
  14. Abortion
  15. Monty Hall problem
  16. Gaza War (2008-2009)
  17. Evolution
  18. Prem Rawat
  19. Sarah Palin
  20. India
  21. Israel
  22. World War II
  23. Christ myth theory
  24. Mass killings under communist regimes
  25. Jehovah's Witnesses
  26. September 11 attacks
  27. Cold fusion
  28. Climatic Research Unit email controversy
  29. Armenian genocide
  30. Anarchism
  31. Atheism
  32. Falun Gong
  33. Neuro-linguistic programming
  34. Jerusalem
  35. Control of cities during the Syrian civil war
  36. Kosovo
  37. British Isles
  38. Transcendental Meditation
  39. United Kingdom
  40. George W. Bush
  41. Christianity
  42. COVID-19 pandemic
  43. Libertarianism
  44. Acupuncture
  45. Thomas Jefferson
  46. International recognition of Kosovo
  47. Israel and apartheid
  48. Adolf Hitler
  49. United States and state terrorism
  50. Syrian civil war
  51. List of best-selling music artists
  52. Julian Assange
  53. Russo-Georgian War
  54. Historicity of Jesus
  55. Second Amendment to the United States Constitution
  56. Tea Party movement
  57. List of common misconceptions
  58. Murder of Meredith Kercher
  59. Genesis creation narrative
  60. Taiwan
  61. Hillary Clinton
  62. Electronic cigarette
  63. Michael Jackson

Bubbling under (present in earlier versions; I have gone back to 2015 so far here, though the page history goes back to 2010):

  1. 0.999...
  2. European Union
  3. Chronic fatigue syndrome
  4. Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
  5. Shakespeare authorship question
  6. Fascism
  7. Astrology
  8. The Holocaust
  9. Joseph Smith
  10. Chelsea Manning
  11. List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming [NOTE: now deleted]
  12. Gibraltar
  13. Ayn Rand
  14. Fox News
  15. Shooting of Trayvon Martin
  16. Human
  17. Canada
  18. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
  19. Race (human categorization)
  20. Iraq War
  21. Elvis Presley
  22. Islam
  23. Philosophy
  24. Terri Schiavo case
  25. Black people
  26. White people
  27. Palestinians
  28. Mitt Romney
  29. HIV
  30. Occupy Wall Street
  31. Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
  32. Elizabeth II
  33. Asperger syndrome
  34. Centrifugal force
  35. Transnistria
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[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most people who have it know why, and it has to do with the large swathes of chuds (and libs too) who insist it isn't real, just in your head, an excuse to be lazy, etc. etc. Almost any chronic illness that is hard to diagnose and can't be pinned with complete unambiguous medical certainty to a single clear cause gets that sort of treatment. There are still so many people who don't even believe Lyme disease is real.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, and it isn't a problem that there are so many people who don't believe Lyme disease is real, because it isn't.

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Neither is long Covid. Just a big hoax by lazy whingers. 🙄

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Stop trying to hook the chronic lyme scam bandwagon to other stuff. Your posts are very much "one of these things is not like the other".

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Um... stop accusing me of weird bullshit while denying reality and calling a medical reality and the experience of countless disabled people pseudoscience?

Anyway, ashiniadash, here you can see why that topic is high on the list of controversial wikipedia pages. Libs gonna lib ig.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The medical reality is the symptoms people experience. The complete bullshit is telling people this is due to mystical nonexistent spirochetes in their blood that can only be treated with a long course of IV antibiotics. This has absolutely fucking nothing to do with liberalism, jfc.

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

telling people this is due to mystical nonexistent spirochetes in their blood that can only be treated with a long course of IV antibiotics.

Right, that's exactly what I said. Just like I said Long Covid is actually the result of vaccines. Seriously, you're telling me "my posts" (btw, what are you even referring to? Do we have a history or something?) are this thing you've made up in your head about me because I am pointing out the FACT that a condition exists despite many misled denialists. Chronic Lyme is as real as long covid is even though we don't know what the underlying cause of it is.

The medical reality is the symptoms people experience

No shit! Which is because Lyme Disease is real! Fucking hell, what is your problem?

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Calling it chronic lyme links it to a mechanical explanation that is totally nonsensical. Just call it chronic fatigue syndrome then, or fibro. You can't play games here, you know what calling it chronic lyme means. There isn't even a coherent agreed-upon set of symptoms.

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, because that denies that it is linked to the initial Lyme infection somehow and may well have a completely different cause than the more general chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia. Again, that would be like telling people just to call long covid "chronic fatigue."

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those other conditions can be triggered by infections so I don't see what the issue is given the enormous amount of bullshit baggage brought in by calling it chronic lyme.

[–] CindyTheSkull@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had already typed up a response to this when I noticed you went back and edited your previous comment to add shit about me "playing games." So nevermind, not worth it. I'm tired of this obnoxious thing where you make these personal accusations like how I'm "playing games" and about "my posts" (while repeatedly editing your own!) when you don't even know what you're talking about wrt to me or the topic. It's not worth trying to engage with someone who pulls that comment editing shit and attacks me personally for things they made up whole cloth. I'm not playing games here and anyone reading this who wants to learn more about the reality of Lyme and the very real long term problems it causes in many patients diagnosed with it, as well as the hype around unsupported explanations for them that are almost certainly garbage (which I never denied) are welcome to do so without me having to defend myself against your weird toxicity.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

All my comments were edited seconds after posting them when I noticed things I wanted to change. imo it's toxic to ascribe doubt of pseudoscientific bullshit to liberalism. As though our scientific view of society isn't what puts us above liberal magical thought about how the market solves everything. I almost certainly know more about lyme than you do.

[–] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Acute Lyme disease is 100% unarguably real, the issue is chronic Lyme disease which is based on pseudoscience. The people are most likely suffering from some other idiopathic disease and are being taken advantage of for profit

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Right yes, I was referring to chronic lyme.