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On today's episode of "This shouldn't be legal"...

Source: https://twitter.com/A_Seagull/status/1789468582281400792

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Not bootlicking, just reading the letter of the law. I read this more as "don't be a total dick about it" so I'd love to hear a contract attorney's take on this.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I sort of saw it that way, but the last bit about “subjective negative reviews” seems unusual even for contracts.

There’s enough lazy rage bait “Turns out X is DOGSHIT?!?” videos out there that I don’t think it’s unreasonable to put some terms in expecting some professional effort. But disallowing even polite criticisms definitely seems too far.

[–] echodot 14 points 6 months ago

The content creator agrees not to make public comments that are detrimental to the reputation of the game

Sounds pretty clear-cut, if you say anything bad about the game regardless of if it's true or not then you're in violation of this contract. That's ridiculous.

They're are actually saying you can't criticize the game. Now, you tell me who is the arbiter of what is and isn't "criticism", because it never says constructive criticism isn't criticism so presumably is also not allowed.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

The opinion of what is and isnt "subjective" is up for a lot of debate even if you dont personally have a major stake in a videogame's marketing campaign (such as the authors and enforcers of these contracts).

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

??? There's nothing in this wording that implies anything more than "don't negatively review us"

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There’s nothing in this wording that implies anything more than “don’t negatively review us”

It's says subjective negative reviews. it seems if you say "It kept crashing" or "this feature wasn't working" or "this feature was super bugged" those aren't subjective.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All reviews are subjective by definition. Your examples are observations, not reviews. A review is my opinion of the product based on my experience. Like honestly, if you ever wrote a review about anything on Steam, or IMDB, or GoodReads or whatever, go find it and remove everything that's subjective and see what you'll end up with. Not like you'd be able to post it, because they require you give a score, which is inherently subjective.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing in the definition of review that requires it to be subjective. It's shocking that you didn't even stop to look it up to first figure out if this is accurate.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I did and it does. For example the Merriam-Webster English Dictionary defines review as:

a critical evaluation

Whereas evaluation is defined as:

determination of the value, nature, character, or quality of something or someone

It's subtle, but it's in there. The examples you gave don't fall under this definition, as they don't determine anything, they're just statements of facts. However the statement "this game is shit" is a determination of quality and thus a review. If you just stop for a moment and think about it, you'll realise that it is impossible to determine the quality of a video game in a purely objective way.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you’ll realise that it is impossible to determine the quality of a video game in a purely objective way.

The only subtle thing here is the subtle change in your wording from simple "review" to "determine the quality." I agree with you there, as whether you think something is good or bad is subjective.

But it appears you realize Im right, which is why you're trying to reframe it. Why is it hard for you to admit you were wrong? It's okay, no one is perfect.

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I literally gave you a definition that says a review means to determine quality, I just assumed you would make the connection between that definition and the sentence you quoted, but apparently you're too dense for that. The only error I made in this conversation is assuming that your reading comprehension is above that of a 3rd grader

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I literally gave you a definition that says a review means to determine quality

"Or" do you really not know what that word means? Do you really not realize that when you cherry pick one part of a definition that it doesn't mean none of the others apply?

Are.you really such an idiot that you don't know this? Or is it just that you're willing to be completely dishonest in defense of your ego?

And of course you don't address the fact that I called out your reframing. Stupid and dishonest. Lol

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You're only strengthening my theory that you have absolutely no reading comprehension. Or you're just trolling. Literally none of the things you just said make any logical sense whatsoever and I refuse to believe that anyone that passed elementary school can be so absolutely illiterate.

Please do tell me how if I wrote the whole definition there of "determination of the value, nature, character, or quality of something or someone" instead of shortening it to just "determine quality" it would make my entire point completely invalid.

And literally how can you look at my comment and, with straight face, say that I didn't address your claim of "reframing". It was all literally addressing it. But ok, you're a moron so you might have not understood my point so let me put it in simpler terms:

Me show you the definition of word Me give an example Me refer to definiton to show example can be described with word You: that's reframing

Do you see how absurdly idiotic you're being?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

Please do tell me how if I wrote the whole definition there of “determination of the value, nature, character, or quality of something or someone” instead of shortening it to just “determine quality” it would make my entire point completely invalid.

You see that "or" in the definition? The word I already pointed out to you in the previous post? It does not mean "the one thing from this list that I get to pick because it makes me not wrong" it means "any of these things." I can't believe someone insulting me as "not having the reading comprehension of a third grader" needs this explained. It's honestly hilarious. Although, can we appreciate for a second that you first said it was "subtle" but now are trying to argue that "it so obvious even a third grader would figure it out." lmao. This is classic. Please keep it up.

Do you see how absurdly idiotic you’re being?

If I'm being absurdly idiotic, god help us because no way in hell we're going to be able to come up with a term describe your stupidity. You're not giving us nearly enough space to reach the depths of your stupidity if the fact that I understand what "or" means makes me "absurdly idiotic." lol