Yes. It's all bullshit. The word genocide doesn't appear in that document once. Not a single time. The word "may" appears 50 times. The sources include American funded orgs who can't be trusted to tell you the colour of the sky and who are currently engaged in an active and ongoing, actual, real genocide.

So the internment camps don’t exist?

No. There are no internment camps. The UN didn't even claim this. There were schools were people were trained and educated because that's the best response to the American terrorist ideologies they'd been propagandised with. It has been the most successful anti-terrorism programme in recorded history.

Children being forcibly separated from their parents to be sent to boarding schools,

Never happened.

arbitrary detentions,

Possible. But there's no credible evidence anyway.

mosques being stripped of cultural architecture of not outright destoyed,

Xinjiang has the highest concentration of mosques in the world.

none of these exist?

That's right. I have a lot more information if you're interested?

Have you ever heard of Adrian Zenz?

I'm not going to bother reading Jones' tripe. I'm very familiar with his poison.

If someone does not have unwavering unconditional support and backing for another, that makes them not-principled?

No but Jones will always cosplay as being on the left and suddenly find reasons to oppose anything that threatens real progress. There are many like him. Novara Media are all like this too.

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The sources include American funded orgs who can’t be trusted to tell you the colour of the sky and who are currently engaged in an active and ongoing, actual, real genocide.

The sources include western sources, but they are not limited to. Also, I have seen similar arguments when people would try to downplay Israel's atrocities towards Palestinians. Both on the source front (Qatar-run Al Jazeera) and on the semantics of both the usage and meaning of genocide.

No. There are no internment camps. The UN didn’t even claim this. There were schools were people were trained and educated because that’s the best response to the American terrorist ideologies they’d been propagandised with. It has been the most successful anti-terrorism programme in recorded history.

Right right, "Re-education" camps. Making callbacks both to what the US did to the Japanese (and other Asians) back in 1942 and the War on Terror starting from 2001. No similarities here! Not. A. Single. One.

Adrian Zenz

Zenz is not the first one to introduce the idea that the Uyghurs are being oppressed, nor does his character have an impact on what is and isn't real. With that said, what I see against Adrian Zenz is very reminiscent of the smear campaigns against academics/activists/spoke-persons that are at odds, oppose, or threaten the entity in power. The purpose of which is to discredit the person in question so that people look past what they say and the evidence they present.

I’m not going to bother reading Jones’ tripe. I’m very familiar with his poison. I am sure you are.

I have a lot more information if you’re interested?

Please do. Send me yours, and I will send you mine. Seeing widespread denial of the oppression against Uyghurs by leftists is actually quite a shock to me, so I am interested in what is being said, what is being presented. I am going to be brutally honest though, from what I have read and watched thus far, from you, from others, I am seeing Americans just by a different name. Whether it be denial or justification, the beats are all the same.

April 19, 2021: “Break Their Lineage, Break Their Roots”- China’s Crimes against Humanity Targeting Uyghurs and Other Turkic Muslims

May 14 2021: The faux anti-imperialism of denying anti-Uighur atrocities

May 24 2022: Xinjiang leak reveals extent of Chinese abuses in Uighur camps

September 1 2022: Potential ‘crimes against humanity’ in China’s Xinjiang, UN says