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[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you post your name and address in a corkboard in a public hall. You shouldn't be angry if the mayor or anybody uses your name and address for their benefit. Nobody forced you to post those publicly. Morality is just a social construct anyways.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Morality is a social construct

If I hear one more motherfucker use this to disregard a concept I am going to go apeshit.

Everything made by humanity is either a social construct or caused/influenced by social constructs because we are extremely social animals.

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes all of our norms are a social construct. But pretending that another person is more superior than another simply because the other OP aligned themselves on one of these social constructs is very ridiculous.

Just let others live their lives, let them choose what they want, let them suffer the consequences. I hate seeing the other OP forcing their belief on others. Just live and let live.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Huh?

How is "I'm not giving implicit consent to use my speech and work for free in your shifty AI" forcing their beliefs on you?

If anything you're the one who is in favour of giant corporations forcing themselves on the rest of humanity.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Morality is not only a social construct, you have it naturally as a child and if you've forgotten that I am sorry - I know a lot of people don't remember anything of their first six or seven years of life. However, you observe morality in children even if you're not railroading them. That "natural morality" is informed and altered by the society you live in, certainly, often in compromising ways that make you less, not more, moral, but to insist that morality is entirely socially negotiated is to negate your own lived experience, which is neither objectively nor subjectively a path to truth.

As someone who lived in seven different places by the time i was five, and who experienced several events involving extreme violence during that time which left a powerful impression, and furthermore due to my experience as a father, and in spite of my education as a psychologist which daftly and without basis (though with a lot of compelling circumstantial evidence) insists otherwise, i tell you with certainty - morality is innate.