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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 89 points 6 months ago (3 children)

At the end of the day, this is just yet another example of how capitalism is an extractive system. Unprotected resources are used not for the benefit of all but to increase and entrench the imbalance of assets. This is why they are so keen on DRM and copyright and why they destroy the environment and social cohesion. The thing is, people want to help each other; not for profit but because we have a natural and healthy imperative to do the most good.

There is a difference between giving someone a present and then them giving it to another person, and giving someone a present and then them selling it. One is kind and helpful and the other is disgusting and produces inequality.

If you're gonna use something for free then make the product of it free too.

An idea for the fediverse and beyond: maybe we should be setting up instances with copyleft licences for all content posted to them. I actually don't mind if you wanna use my comments to make an LLM. It could be useful. But give me (and all the other people who contributed to it) the LLM for free, like we gave it to you. And let us use it for our benefit, not just yours.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

An idea for the fediverse and beyond: maybe we should be setting up instances with copyleft licences for all content posted to them. I actually don’t mind if you wanna use my comments to make an LLM. It could be useful. But give me (and all the other people who contributed to it) the LLM for free, like we gave it to you. And let us use it for our benefit, not just yours.

This seems like a very fair and reasonable way to deal with the issue.

[–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Agreed on that last part, making that the default would be a great solution. I could also use a signature in comments, like that guy who always puts the "Commercial AI thingy" but automatically.

[–] madis@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, supposedly people can use it without paying and without account, though I cannot confirm the last part in the official site.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I think you still have to have an account (last time I used it anyway), but you're right, there is a tier you don't have to pay any money for. It's just an email address but whatever. You can use it via their website but afaik they haven't released a free model based on the data they've scraped off us, so you can't host it on your own hardware and properly do what you want with it. I have heard though that commercial websites were/are using ChatGPT bots for customer service and you can easily use the customer service chatbots on their website to do other random stuff like writing bash scripts or making yo mama jokes.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Open access != Copyleft, but its a decent start.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Copyleft lisenses are anti-copywrite, copywrite lisenses. They guarantee any random person the right to use and (usually) modify and (usually) distribute the work (art, program, etc.) with some noteworthy terms and conditions. Open access is where they provide a good or service for free but are not legally required to do so.

I bitch about it not being open sourced like llama2.