this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
102 points (99.0% liked)

History

23101 readers
88 users here now

Welcome to c/history! History is written by the posters.

c/history is a comm for discussion about history so feel free to talk and post about articles, books, videos, events or historical figures you find interesting

Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember...we're all comrades here.

Do not post reactionary or imperialist takes (criticism is fine, but don't pull nonsense from whatever chud author is out there).

When sharing historical facts, remember to provide credible souces or citations.

Historical Disinformation will be removed

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Victory Day is a holiday that commemorates the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in 1945. It was first inaugurated in the 15 republics of the Soviet Union following the signing of the German Instrument of Surrender late in the evening on 8 May 1945 (9 May Moscow Time). The Soviet government announced the victory early on 9 May after the signing ceremony in Berlin. Although the official inauguration occurred in 1945, the holiday became a non-labor day only in 1965, and only in certain Soviet republics.

The German Instrument of Surrender was signed twice. An initial document was signed in Reims on 7 May 1945 by Alfred Jodl (chief of staff of the German OKW) for Germany, Walter Bedell Smith, on behalf of the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force, and Ivan Susloparov, on behalf of the Soviet High Command, in the presence of French Major-General François Sevez as the official witness.

Since the Soviet High Command had not agreed to the text of the surrender, and because Susloparov, a relatively low-ranking officer, was not authorized to sign this document, the Soviet Union requested that a second, revised, instrument of surrender be signed in Berlin.

A second surrender ceremony was organized in a surviving manor in the outskirts of Berlin late on 8 May, when it was already 9 May in Moscow due to the difference in time zones.

During the Soviet Union's existence, 9 May was celebrated throughout it and in the Eastern Bloc. Though the holiday was introduced in many Soviet republics between 1946 and 1950, it became a non-working day only in the Ukrainian SSR in 1963 and the Russian SFSR in 1965

The celebration of Victory Day continued during subsequent years. The war became a topic of great importance in cinema, literature, history lessons at school, the mass media, and the arts. The ritual of the celebration gradually obtained a distinctive character with a number of similar elements: ceremonial meetings, speeches, lectures, receptions and fireworks.

Victory Day in modern Russia has become a celebration in which popular culture plays a central role. The 60th and 70th anniversaries of Victory Day in Russia (2005 and 2015) became the largest popular holidays since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Megathreads and spaces to hang out:

reminders:

  • 💚 You nerds can join specific comms to see posts about all sorts of topics
  • 💙 Hexbear’s algorithm prioritizes comments over upbears
  • 💜 Sorting by new you nerd
  • 🌈 If you ever want to make your own megathread, you can reserve a spot here nerd
  • 🐶 Join the unofficial Hexbear-adjacent Mastodon instance toots.matapacos.dog

Links To Resources (Aid and Theory):

Aid:

Theory:

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Where I'm at that's, sadly, the dominant view. I moved back down South (US) and had a small bit of culture shock. There are billboards along the road with the "spare the rod, spoil the child" plastered on them. Sick shit that's way too normalized.

I've had to Uber lately to get to work and the conversations with people tend to turn toward an unpleasant side. One told me how we have to spank (best) our kids "just a little bit"

Off topic, but related to Uber drivers. One talked about how he wants to go to school to study Ukraine (he apparently has 'charities' for Ukraine) and told me how you "can't learn anything" in school nowadays because of "these protestors"

Another talked about all the antisemitism he has been experiencing since the Genocide started

And another guy was an Indian Christian who praised Modi

Every trip is like a ride from hell, and they've been a bit too on the nose lately with their hellishness

[–] niph@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I once had an Uber driver in the UK who asked “oh you’re Chinese, what do you think of Falun Gong” and then when I told him they were a dangerous CIA funded cult he said “I just joined last week” scared

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Haha ooi :/ You can't escape seeing them. Walking around a city you'll members of their cult doing their exercises, and every business has a poster for their "China before communism" performance. You'll see billboards for it too. Vile stuff.

I did see one anti Fulan Gong stand set up in NYC though, it warmed my heart.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

Based on important theory text "tower of the elephant" by extremely not racist guy re howard (i am lying he was super racist) i think it should be okay to invade cults, kill their high priest and their giant murder snake, set the drapes on fire, then escape with all their silverware and jewels.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are billboards along the road with the "spare the rod, spoil the child" plastered on them. Sick shit that's way too normalized

I’ve seen these while visiting family in rural Texas and it’s just wild to me that someone was like “hell yea let’s devote a few hundred bucks to remind people to beat their kids!” lol tf

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a tragicomedy driving through the south and seeing giant JESUS signs on every dilapidated barn. But then it takes a dark turn with signs like "HEAVEN HELL Do you know where you're going", and billboards that actually promote "white pride". Sick place :(

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

lot of racismI’ve never seen it personally but urban legend has it in vidor Texas, famously a sundown town, they used to have a billboard that said something to the effect of “don’t let the sun set on your black ass in vidor Texas”

Idk how much of that is just urban legend but what is for sure is the klan had a pretty strong political presence there with several members sitting in local governance positions and of course the police

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't put it past them. The racism is very casual and nobody thinks twice when speaking that way. I wouldn't be surprised if s small down has a sign like that. My own small town has a "All Lives Matter" sign up on entering. I have many stories from growing up down there, and I've heard some bad shit from my own family. I've been having a minor culture shock with how ... different.... (white) people are down South after returning for some time. Though I don't want to come across like I'm saying only the Southern US has these problems, and my experience is just a small sliver of it all.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Alright betting pool on who the next driver from whell will be, I'm betting it all on Falun Gong

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Don't lathe this for me please

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I heard somewhere that the "rod" is the shepherd's crook used to guide sheep, pull them out of thornbushs and ponds, and fend off wolves. To spare the rod is to deprive them of guidance and protection, but somehow christian fascists made it about physical abuse.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

I haven't studied the Bible so I don't have authority to speak about the original text. I've heard that before, but I've also heard that this interpretation is a "explanation" and leans more toward apologetics. It's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure myself. I may look into it. There are other verses too in the Bible about physical abuse of children though, e.g. Pro 23:13-14, but idk of the original interpretations of those either.

But regardless, fascists will twist whatever can be found in the Bible.