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Extent of the 1941 Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, superimposed on a map of the USA
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still blows my mind to see pro-Soviet propaganda made in the U.S. by an NGO
looking into that extremely brief moment in which the soviets were considered allies and a stalin-fdr rapprochement was a distant but possible outcome rather than the cold war we got is a trip. But then again it wouldn't have lasted, capitalism would not tolerate an alternative economic system let alone befriend it
If FDR had lived a couple more years, or if Henry Wallace had remained the VP, he could have at least kicked the Cold War can down the road a decade or so. At the very least the Korean War might not have happened with a less belligerent president at the helm through the late 40s.
i basically educated my mom on blowback and what could have been (she's an FDR stan because of our family history with the New Deal)
i think best case scenerio with Wallace is the U.S. goes firmly socdem for a generation or two and the USSR becomes market socialist and basically does a China but far earlier
after that who knows butterfly effects likely the crisis comes later but maybe the socialist/communist bloc is far stronger and more economically integrated and neoliberalism never happens
especially if there's a socialist economic zone that combines Europe with the Soviets. there was so much goodwill in the aftermath of WW2 and Wallace could have severely disrupted the CIA's creation (since FDR fucking hated the OSS)
imagine buying the global south like 15 to 20 years of decolonization and political development without interference or only the good kind (material and intellectual aid no strings attached)
watch the US-government films on it from the war, the narrative completely 180'd during WW2
oh i've seen some. also recently went through a contemporary american art exhibit that ran from the 20s to the 60s. norman rockwell, etc.
my partner and I had fun with the sudden, screeching tone shift that occurred starting around '48
This is why I tell people to watch movies like "The North Star (1943)".