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[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.run 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Too bad most progressive left leaning people who this comic is talking about don't own firearms to fight the ruling class.

And if you're reading this thinking of rebuking with "there's a lot of liberal gun owners", the reality is that most of pro gun culture is monopolized by right wing Republicans and not only do they outnumber you by an alarmingly high order of magnitude, they side with the boot lickers and cops who protect the ruling class.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

thats the sad truth of it, they ain't massacring us because we ain't a threat. but back when we were, in not-so-distant past, workers were murdered for disrupting and striking.

they don't care about climate change beyond how it affects their power. they will not just repent and hand the world over.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

See, I wonder about this. Perhaps left leaning people are just far less likely to do things that draw attention to their gun ownership. You say gun culture is dominated by the right wing, and I don't disagree with you. Maybe it's just that right wing people make it a cultural thing more.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

If it's a cultural thing then, logically speaking, the conservatives would still end up with more guns.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, corporations with billions and private "security ", backed by governments with billions, police armed like the military, and an army, can be defeated by a bunch of good progressists with guns.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.run 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't know if you're being dumb or sarcastic. Likely your are stupid and forgot your history.

Vietnam NVA did fine with farmers who had no education, so did the Taliban using the same. Both defeated a coalition backed major military superpower with infinite money and significantly better equipment than them.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 6 months ago

Guns aren't the only way to make a revolution, tho

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Your assuming we all live in America where guns are legal. Good luck getting one in the UK.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seems like that makes you extra fucked in the UK

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yes and no. We don't have school shootings so that's a plus. I guess not having guns is the cost of that, which is pretty fair. Some people are allowed guns, but you need a special license for it.

Edit: also we actually have stronger unions and more strike action even without guns. They don't actually help outside of a revolution. If anything we have less police violence because we don't have guns, so the most of police don't either. As a police officer you have to have special specific training to even handle a taser, nevermind a gun.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.run 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a great role model to follow. Since you never mentioned what country you are fucking talking about we all will assume it's a random one. So let's just say, you're talking about Mongolia.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

Actually I did. Read the rest of the comments in this chain. I am talking about the UK.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah; if you need guns to change things you have already lost and don't know it.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shoutout to the allies for losing WWII.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The world has sadly changed.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

We need them on our side!

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago

This is 100% facts